No Money in Law !? (2 Viewers)

[ptrgrgry]

Fuck up

No. I will not "fuck up".
BOS wasn't designed for dumb-fucks like you to come and stroke their ego about how good their shitty engineering courses are (which is obviously why you're keenly interested in this forum). I'm actually seeking advice about a HSC matter - and that is exactly what this site was designed for.

 

[Existential]

no. I will not "fuck up".
Bos wasn't designed for dumb-fucks like you to come and stroke their ego about how good their shitty engineering courses are (which is obviously why you're keenly interested in this forum). I'm actually seeking advice about a hsc matter - and that is exactly what this site was designed for.

+1

 

[scaredytiger]

No. I will not "fuck up".
BOS wasn't designed for dumb-fucks like you to come and stroke their ego about how good their shitty engineering courses are (which is obviously why you're keenly interested in this forum). I'm actually seeking advice about a HSC matter - and that is exactly what this site was designed for.

Righttt. You were seeking advice about whether you should pay someone to read and correct your HSC essays, in the Law forum.

I'm pretty sure he has the right to assume you're a complete 'tard.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

No. I will not "fuck up".
BOS wasn't designed for dumb-fucks like you to come and stroke their ego about how good their shitty engineering courses are (which is obviously why you're keenly interested in this forum). I'm actually seeking advice about a HSC matter - and that is exactly what this site was designed for.

Ok if you are seeking advice, then go and post in a relevant thread. You have posted twice in here regarding something that has no relevance to the discussion.
I doubt you even know what and engineer does.
Go study prelim

 

[ptrgrgry]

Righttt. You were seeking advice about whether you should pay someone to read and correct your HSC essays, in the Law forum.

I'm pretty sure he has the right to assume you're a complete 'tard.

Sorry, but NO ONE was answering my goddamn question! I got a little desperate - is that so hard to understand? In fact, still, at this point in time, no one has anwered my question!

And wtf person above? 2010= HSC this year, not prelim

 

[scaredytiger]

Because it is not only irrelevant, it isn't even regarding your studies. It's regarding your wallet.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

Sorry, but NO ONE was answering my goddamn question! I got a little desperate - is that so hard to understand? In fact, still, at this point in time, no one has anwered my question!

And wtf person above? 2010= HSC this year, not prelim

Just because someone hasn't answered your question within 30 seconds doesn't mean you post it elsewhere.
If no one has answered after a week or so, then maybe bump it up.

 

[flamearrows]

OK so if I went and murdered you right now, infront of 5 people, I would not be guilty?
GTFO law fag.

You might've done it, but you wouldn't be guilty.

There's a difference.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

You might've done it, but you wouldn't be guilty.

There's a difference.

And this is why our legal system does not work.

 

[flamearrows]

And this is why our legal system does not work.

They see me trollin'

 

[tommykins]

I think the point shuttle is getting at is that as a lawyer you could be defending a person who committed the crime, and I do agree it's within every persons right to have a representative.

However, the moral clash comes into play when you consider lawyers finding loopholes within the legal system in order to decrease the sentencing a criminal gets.

Obviously there have been times where convicted murders only get a few years when they definitely deserve more.

 

[scaredytiger]

There may be a clash of obligations; the obligation to provide the best defense possible (which is upholding the values of the legal system), and the obligation to uphold the values of the society.

I would probably agree that it should be their primary goal to uphold the values of the legal system, which is much more static than the values of society.

Sure, a few criminals may get lesser sentences than you think they "should", but who are you to claim your perspective is perfect and absolute?

 

[tommykins]

There may be a clash of obligations; the obligation to provide the best defense possible (which is upholding the values of the legal system), and the obligation to uphold the values of the society.

I would probably agree that it should be their primary goal to uphold the values of the legal system, which is much more static than the values of society.

Sure, a few criminals may get lesser sentences than you think they "should", but who are you to claim your perspective is perfect and absolute?

I never said anything about lawyers morals, I'm merely hypothesising shuttle's idea.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

lets all get naked.

 

[scaredytiger]

It may have been a response to your post, but it wasn't exclusively directed at you. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[flamearrows]

There may be a clash of obligations; the obligation to provide the best defense possible (which is upholding the values of the legal system), and the obligation to uphold the values of the society.

I would probably agree that it should be their primary goal to uphold the values of the legal system, which is much more static than the values of society.

Sure, a few criminals may get lesser sentences than you think they "should", but who are you to claim your perspective is perfect and absolute?

There's no clash here either - strictly speaking, the defence lawyer's only obligation is to provide the best possible defence for the client, subject to the usual hedging. In Shuttle's example, the lawyer could not plead that the defendant did not commit the act in question, but there are a stack of other reasons why a not-guilty verdict might be returned.

If you're not happy about that, it's not an issue to take up with the lawyer in question, it's an issue for the Parliament.

 

[scaredytiger]

That's true. My bad.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

ITT: law kiddies get serious.

 

[scaredytiger]

I'm not even a "law kiddy" m8.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

I'm not even a "law kiddy" m8.

lol scaredy