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"process information from secondary sources to describe recent discoveries of elements"

I guess that means unununonunoium and those crazy elements
Has anyone prepared for this? How likely are they to turn "process information from secondary sources" dot points into exam questions?
 

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oops... :(
that one completely slipped my notes...

as for transforming that into a question, a possible case would be:

Describe the production of recent discoveries of new elements and evaluate their importance. - 6 marks.

if i see that i would get owned.

IMPORTANT: btw, for those who looked at pathways page 83, your information on element 118 (ununoctium, Uuo) is no longer valid. if you believe Uuo exists then you are wrong.

for more information, please check this source. i remember doing this for my teacher and at the end i wrote "sorry, ms. luithle, what i have said is a complete crock of shit. it's a good discussion on reliability of a scientific method really. :p
 
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well the secondary sources just means you go read up some books to describe the pt. In an exam, this would mean them giving you some info, eg. tabulated data, equations, or the like and you have to intepret them to answer the particular q, which could be about: reasons for their unstability; what sort of radioactive decay they experience; fill-in-space type q with transmutation eqns; certain procedual descriptions... or some things similar. I cannot see them putting anything like evaluate, assess, discuss or any higher level verbs for this dot point, so i dun think you need to worry frigid :)
 
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I don't think they can ask you to evaluate its important or anything; nowhere was anything like that mentioned on teh syllabus.
 

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therefore precluding the possibility of having to "evaluate" ther importance, as suggested by frigid?
 

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yeah, i don't know, we got info on bombarding, yet it's crap
 

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Originally posted by inasero
therefore precluding the possibility of having to "evaluate" ther importance, as suggested by frigid?
No.

edit: meant no evaluate, assess and stuff like that
 
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I think they could only ask you to evaluate it if it actually said 'evaluate' in the syllabus.
 

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Originally posted by Frigid
IMPORTANT: btw, for those who looked at pathways page 83, your information on element 118 (ununoctium, Uuo) is no longer valid. if you believe Uuo exists then you are wrong.
Jeez I'm too lazy to go look up a new one now.

I wonder if the BOS would care...argh I guess they might.

*loads up google*
 

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Originally posted by Skywalker
*loads up google*
why the heck look? i gave you the original links already... :confused:
 
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Originally posted by Frigid

IMPORTANT: btw, for those who looked at pathways page 83, your information on element 118 (ununoctium, Uuo) is no longer valid. if you believe Uuo exists then you are wrong.


Hmm so they univented it? I wish they would uninvent this syllabus...
 

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they didn't uninvent, but (to use the right term), retracted their findings.
 

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How recent is recent? could you talk about Aluminium, being tiscovered through the use of Electolysis?
 

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Originally posted by mon_mon
How recent is recent? could you talk about Aluminium, being tiscovered through the use of Electolysis?
errr... mon_mon, Aluminium wasn't made by nuclear reactions... Electrolysis is electrochemistry, not nuclear chemistry...
 
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Originally posted by Frigid
they didn't uninvent, but (to use the right term), retracted their findings.
Yeh i was just using it to express my opinions on this syllabus (and *retracting* the syllabus doesn't have the same meaning).
 

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Yeah, i know.....whoops. didnt read the sylabus point properly. sorry.

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Actually, the point doesnt have anything to do with redioactive elements, does it? only recent?
 

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Originally posted by ND
I think they could only ask you to evaluate it if it actually said 'evaluate' in the syllabus.
cool

our teacher didnt say anything about new elements at all. The ones after actinides dont do anything to they? They just instantly die in the reactor. Is americium "recent"?
 

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Originally posted by mon_mon
Actually, the point doesnt have anything to do with redioactive elements, does it? only recent?
but aluminium is NOT recent... and anyway, it's in part 5 of productions, titled Nuclear Chemistry.
 

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