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Sounds simple enough...
Looks simple enough...
Creates enough of a headache.

The point p(2ap, ap^2) lies on the parabola x^2 = 4ay. The focus S is the point , (0,a) .The tangent at P meets the y axis at Q.

Prove PS = QS

xD. Help please? XD
 
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lol... i tried that ><"

i ended up getting a huge bunch of crap.... that didn't equal xD...
 

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You prove that Q is the directrix. The definition of a parabola states that the distance of a point on the parabola is equidistant from both the focus and the directrix at any given point.
 

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Are you sure it's not PS = QS ?

I tried it out, doesn't work.
 

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tommykins said:
Are you sure it's not PS = QS ?

I tried it out, doesn't work.
yeah same here.

edit: nvm the question got edited x).
 

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Already editted. >_>"

Lol @ Aplus... ><" makes me feel like an idiot rofl.
 

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Yeah, I tried it and panicked because I couldn't prove it. Good thing it wasn't the question.
 

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Aplus said:
Yeah, I tried it and panicked because I couldn't prove it. Good thing it wasn't the question.
Your idea was incorrect as tangents of focal chords intersect at the directrix, it doesn't necesarily mean a tangent at a point cutting the y axis must be at the directrix ie (0,-a).

Also, PS = PD (D is directrix) but D is (x,-a) and it is the PERPINDICULAR distance from the point to the directrix.
 
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*edit for the 3rd time. is just very confused now.*
 
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I got 0 ?

My first working was that PD (where D is the directrix) is
sqrt[(x-x)² + (ap²+a)²]
= sqrt[0 + (ap²+a)²]
= (ap²+a)

Now, the height of the triangle is simply x.

Therefore area of triangle = x.(ap²+a)/2

For the area underneath the parabola -
x² = 4ay
y = x²/4a

1/4a int x² dx x->0

1/4a [x³/3]x->0
= x³/12a

Area of Triangle/Area below curve = 6a²(p²+1)/x²

I'm abit iffy about that answer however, as there is a p variable in there.

If however, I find PD to be 4a (splitting the triangle into two right angled triangles, height of half of PD is 2a), the area of the triangle is 2a.x

2a.x/x³/12a -> 24a²/x²

:D
 

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tommykins said:
I got 0 ?
My first working was that PD (where D is the directrix) is
sqrt[(x-x)² + (ap²+a)²]
= sqrt[0 + (ap²+a)²]
= (ap²+a)
PS = PD = (x^2/4a + a)
 

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That was a nice question, 3unitz. I am sure I will be able to put it to evil uses some day.
 
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Okay, I got 3/2 :) great question.
 
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Haha honestly, I adore you, Slidey and Affinity so much. <3 math.
 

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>_>"

Lol. I did this question for my mate a while ago and i handed him the solution but now and he lost it... & I can't remember how to do it.. could someone post up the solution... noting Q is at (0,-ap^2) for simplification.
 

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