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Hehe yeah I've seen SmartBar in action, I'm not really looking to use one, but it's only a cosmetic thing for me (eye-candy).
 

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Originally posted by Huy
Hehe yeah I've seen SmartBar in action, I'm not really looking to use one, but it's only a cosmetic thing for me (eye-candy).
yum eye candy is good, well u can be my beta tester for mine ;), make sure u download the MS.NET Framework 1.1 :p...
 

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Originally posted by ~Perfection
just with the google bar...
can someone explain the 'blog' button to me please :)
Weblog = Blog for short.

Basically you can visit a website and comment on it (directly to your own "blog" - or web log). You can put down your thoughts, feelings, experiences and so on.

It's an account of what you did (a log), about your thoughts and life. I suppose you can use the Google toolbar to 'send' your current thoughts and share such thoughts with the world - through your own blog.

Hope that makes sense :)
 

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Originally posted by Huy
Weblog = Blog for short.

Basically you can visit a website and comment on it (directly to your own "blog" - or web log). You can put down your thoughts, feelings, experiences and so on.

It's an account of what you did (a log), about your thoughts and life. I suppose you can use the Google toolbar to 'send' your current thoughts and share such thoughts with the world - through your own blog.

Hope that makes sense :)

Yes but some ppl have personal blogs, and if u have one dont u ever put stuff too personal, some MS employee tooka picture of G5 Macs at MS Headquarters posted it up on blog and got fiered lol...
 

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Yes but some ppl have personal blogs, and if u have one dont u ever put stuff too personal, some MS employee tooka picture of G5 Macs at MS Headquarters posted it up on blog and got fiered lol...
I read that article too, that was great stuff (but they do have a Mac division at MS, of course). If I had a blog, I'd still put personal stuff on there (as long as it's not too outrageous). The guy took a picture of the G5's being unloaded at MS HQ and had a funny captain "Even MS want the new G5s" or something...
 

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Originally posted by Huy
I read that article too, that was great stuff (but they do have a Mac division at MS, of course). If I had a blog, I'd still put personal stuff on there (as long as it's not too outrageous). The guy took a picture of the G5's being unloaded at MS HQ and had a funny captain "Even MS want the new G5s" or something...
mmm yeah for Office X development, as well as the graphics department, i so wanna work in the Redmon campus, i'm planning to go Redmond for a trip to have a look.
 

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lol i've seen that picture too. They need the macs to be able to port their s/w to. :)


Just out of curiosity, does any MAC user actually use MS products?
 

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lol i've seen that picture too. They need the macs to be able to port their s/w to. :)

Just out of curiosity, does any MAC user actually use MS products?
Microsoft Office v.X
Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer (on iMacs or Mac notebooks)

Other hardware, some software eg Virtual PC
 

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Originally posted by Huy


Other hardware, some software eg Virtual PC
Connectix was dumb enough to sell it out i can't believe it, i was at harvey norman the other day and i saw the boxes they have

VPC for XP Professional
VPC for XP Home
VPC for 2k

lol seperate versions each!! omg

this is VPC for windows on Mac
 

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I know someone who has (*shifty*) "Virtual PC 2004" so I don't know what the deal is there... probably the same as VPC for XP.

They do have VPC on the Mac though, designed to run different OSes.

Eg buy VPC XP for the Mac platform and you can install XP on the Mac (I would get a few screenshots but I cant find any...I've seen it done though. XP Classic through VPC, on OS X Panther).
 

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Originally posted by Huy
I know someone who has (*shifty*) "Virtual PC 2004" so I don't know what the deal is there... probably the same as VPC for XP.

They do have VPC on the Mac though, designed to run different OSes.

Eg buy VPC XP for the Mac platform and you can install XP on the Mac (I would get a few screenshots but I cant find any...I've seen it done though. XP Classic through VPC, on OS X Panther).
That's what i'm talking about VPC for mac, i saw at harvey norman, which had different versions to run only one specific windows version on Mac, how stupid... i got MS VPC its not bad... but not much diff compared to connectix.
 

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That's what i'm talking about VPC for mac, i saw at harvey norman, which had different versions to run only one specific windows version on Mac, how stupid... i got MS VPC its not bad... but not much diff compared to connectix.
Oh alright, sorry. Yeah I've seen those around. They're just like buying XP Home and Professional versions (editions) on the PC, but you can fire up Virtual PC on the Mac and have your very own Windows box, within your Apple Mac - lovely compromise :)

It'll be handy for those who like to work on both Windows and Mac environments without having to purchase a PC, or have two machines running at the same time. It's great for compatibility and 'double checking' - and of course, some of the benefits of Windows can then be 'transported' to the Mac environment, running concurrently.

Great idea.
 

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Originally posted by Huy
Oh alright, sorry. Yeah I've seen those around. They're just like buying XP Home and Professional versions (editions) on the PC, but you can fire up Virtual PC on the Mac and have your very own Windows box, within your Apple Mac - lovely compromise :)

It'll be handy for those who like to work on both Windows and Mac environments without having to purchase a PC, or have two machines running at the same time. It's great for compatibility and 'double checking' - and of course, some of the benefits of Windows can then be 'transported' to the Mac environment, running concurrently.

Great idea.
Yep it's extremely good for a developer, for me i have connective VPC , because i have windows 98, windows 2000 installations for it, so i can test the compatibility of my software under those two platforms, i wonder if VPC can run MAC! on a PC lol... :p...

But i'm not sure how VPC will run under Mac, you do need quite a deal of processing power say 2Ghz or so and more than 512 megs of RAM if u want the actual OS on VPC to run a little smoother, because right now for me it's "just" running fine. Maybe Mac's can handle it better ;)
 

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Originally posted by Winston
But i'm not sure how VPC will run under Mac, you do need quite a deal of processing power say 2Ghz or so and more than 512 megs of RAM if u want the actual OS on VPC to run a little smoother, because right now for me it's "just" running fine. Maybe Mac's can handle it better ;)
It can.

Macs have a totally different CPU architecture (as you no doubt would already know) and that means that the 'megahertz myth' surrounding Mac CPU's can be dispelled.

Ideally, a dual processor 2GHz Mac is probably equivalent to a 3GHz Pentium 4 (or thereabouts). I can't remember the exact formula, but it was roughly:

733MHz Mac = 1GHz PC

Something like that... but it wasn't 1:1 - that's for sure. That's why you will see the G5 1.25GHz, along with the CPUs in the Apple notebooks (eg 800MHz, 900MHz, 1GHz iBooks and PowerBooks) performing equally well compared to the 1.6GHz Celerons or Centrino notebooks IMO.

There can be no comparison between two differing architectures, as 1GHz PC cannot be directly compared to a 1GHz Mac (I hope I've quenched the 1:1 megahertz myth).

That's why you don't see any "3.2GHz" Apple CPUs - it's not necessary. However, the RAM component is something to talk about. Apple OS X thrives on more RAM. The more juice you give it, the better it goes (virtually flying if you have 640-1GB of RAM - the base amount, 128MB is the minimum for Panther, but you would need anywhere between 256, if not 512MB+ to be able to do the things you would normally want to do, on a PC).

For virtual computing, 512MB+ is the way to go - as I can barely multitask on an Apple running 256MB RAM. (OS X Panther). You can't run Panther (OS X 10.3) on a PC - only 'emulate' or copy (YzDock and the rest...). You're right when you say that you need a lot of computing power, but don't expect to run multiple windows (applications) within the VPC environment, on a Mac which can barely run Word v.X, about 10 browsers open (BOS :p) and iTunes in the background, or CD-burning in the background. (naturally you're pushing the limits of a Mac if you're trying to do 50 things at once ;)).

All in all, a 1.25GHz Dual CPU (lowest-clocked G5, cheapest G5 'base' system) will be able to VPC, provided you buy RAM elsewhere and upgrade to 512MB+

Macs can run Virtual PC (Windows XP) on the Apple system, with 'less' requirements than would be the case for PCs for optimal 'playback' (operation).
 

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mmm *nods* i have heard about the different speed ratings of Mac's, but i'm not as much of a Mac enthusiast like you are. :p... i'm about the most parsimonious computer user, mainly because i have to work for my computer accessories :).
 

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Originally posted by Winston
Yep it's extremely good for a developer, for me i have connective VPC , because i have windows 98, windows 2000 installations for it, so i can test the compatibility of my software under those two platforms, i wonder if VPC can run MAC! on a PC lol... :p...
Could you post some of the s/w you've made if you dont mind? :)
 

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Originally posted by asdf
Could you post some of the s/w you've made if you dont mind? :)

lol Why?, it's made under .NET
 

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