posibility? UWS: B design (visual comm)- UTS: B design (visual comm) O_o (2 Viewers)

[s1mplykat]

what's the out look on having a uai of 65.00
..entering B Design (visual communication) at uws (2006 cut off 60.00) and working my ass off terribly hard 1st year to transfer to the exact same course at UTS (2006 cut off 86.05)?

is it even possible? =_=??
any replies would be much appreciated.. =]

 

[jemsta]

you might have a chance if you get at least a d average or better, but since youre transferring to uts, i would advise you to write a personal statement, as that would get you up to a maximum of 10 points

 

[s1mplykat]

you might have a chance if you get at least a d average or better, but since youre transferring to uts, i would advise you to write a personal statement, as that would get you up to a maximum of 10 points

a distinction average or high distinction in ever single subject?

 

[hellomike]

A Distinction average is not required for Visual Communication but it would certainly help. I'll be honest in saying that you won't make it for UTS but you will at UWS. Visual Communication is different to all other courses because it's not just how well you do academically. You need to show you actually want to do the course. 70% is weighted on a personal statement.

 

[stazi]

i think a d average is necessary. even if 70% is weighted on a personal statement for transfers (not sure how you know this, mike), you would still need to have a high GPA to have an adequate NRSL for transfer. Although NRSL cutoffs fluctuate, it's unlikely that it will drop as low as 60

 

[Calla]

70 % is weighted on the personal statement? is this at UTS and how do u know this?

 

[hellomike]

I don't personally believe a Distinction is necessary but obviously it does make you more competitive. From a UTS point of view, the administration who handle the transfer applications said that you need a Credit Average.

I thought you knew already Calla? If you look into more detail of specific course/faculty requirements, 70% is weighted on your statement and 30% is weighted on academic marks (GPA). If you go to UTS' website and click Admission, you will see the course listed and it opens up in PDF.

As said by someone else I asked, a maximum of 10 points may be given in addition to your application depending on how good your statement was.

It certainly won't drop below 80.

Edit: To be more specific: >http://www.uts.edu.au/study/pdfs/ug_crit_dab_des.pdf

 

[Calla]

oh yeah i do remember being told about the 70% and 30% thing, but when i read what you wrote i just thought - so whats the weighting on the interview.....just read the file now and yeah the interview is within the 70%.

 

[s1mplykat]

when you say,

I'll be honest in saying that you won't make it for UTS but you will at UWS

, do u mean that i wouldn't get into UTS now, but i would UWS? because i had no intention to get into UTS this year.. but rather after a year of study at UWS and attempt transfer via personal statement, uni results, etc.. next year...

i put in B Design (visual communication) @ UWS as my 1st preference, not to be completely pessimistic but im sure even i wouldn't even get a final round offer from UTS with my uai..

so is the UTS transfer system comprised of 70% personal statement 30% uai or 30% gpa.. my computer wont let me see PDF files for some reason.

 

[stazi]

i think thats only for that particular degree

 

[s1mplykat]

A Personal Statement is a free-text written statement, which presents a reasoned case supporting your application to a particular course. Your statement should demonstrate your capacity and motivation for study in the course to which the Personal Statement applies. Applicants may also use the Personal Statement to draw attention to mitigating circumstances that would help to explain earlier poor performance at university. - http://www.uac.edu.au/uni/general/utsGeneral_Info.html#nyr12

...so its 70% personal statement aye? for a second there i thought someone said it was 70% interview.. *phew*..

 

[hellomike]

The nature of this course means it's has a different admission system (i.e. 70% statement). All design courses have a similar admission system but all other courses like Business is the usual half UAI half GPA.

The lectueres want to see people who are serious about doing the course in that they want to make a career out of it and not just because it's all "fun and games" in view of some people.

Calla, strange with the interview last month because the interview is assessed but the lecturers didnt write anything down. Suppose they remember by memory...?

This course was really high 2 years ago at 92.70 UAI which is still a big surpise to me. Then 2006, it dropped considerably to 86.05. It might drop a bit lower if you follow the trend but it's annoying to say it - just have to wait and see the supply and demand. It won't drop lower than 80.00 thought because DFE HSC students are 81.05 UAI.

 

[hellomike]

If you really really want to get into this field, you should have thought about applying at a private college like KvB, Billy Blue etc. They are regarded highly over universities becuase they are more specialist. No need for a UAI, just an exam/interview/portfolio

The thing with private colleges is that they provide a technical education. If your technical abilities are not good enough than you won't be competitive enough in the industry. I am not going to into it too much but the reason for studying Design at university is to appreciate and understand the history behind it. If you studied Medical Science, Chemistry - what use are you as a scientist or doctor if you can mix chemicals but you don't know your history of the elements, know the theory behind the theories by Einstein, Newton? The same practice applies to Design. That's why the industry is so saturated with so many so called desigers when they can't apply layout and typography. That's why the statement is relevant because they don't want to see students who think because the person knows Photoshop so well, he can get in. That's why the design industry isn't taken as seriously as in London or USA.

It's quite an achievement that UTS got the Dyson Award in 2005 and from they many designers that I keep hearing about whether be word of mouth, magazines, online folios, studios/agencies many of them have been past UTS graduates.

 

[Calla]

The nature of this course means it's has a different admission system (i.e. 70% statement). All design courses have a similar admission system but all other courses like Business is the usual half UAI half GPA.

The lectueres want to see people who are serious about doing the course in that they want to make a career out of it and not just because it's all "fun and games" in view of some people.

Calla, strange with the interview last month because the interview is assessed but the lecturers didnt write anything down. Suppose they remember by memory...?

This course was really high 2 years ago at 92.70 UAI which is still a big surpise to me. Then 2006, it dropped considerably to 86.05. It might drop a bit lower if you follow the trend but it's annoying to say it - just have to wait and see the supply and demand. It won't drop lower than 80.00 thought because DFE HSC students are 81.05 UAI.

Hellomike, i vividly remember the female interviewer had a pen and an exercise book of some sort which i think had the names of the interview recipients, and she occasionally doodled stuff on it, but as far as i know, it was mostly underlining / circling names etc.

In regards to the UAI cut-off, it is difficult to say because on one hand u might think that because the cut-off in 2006 was significantly lower, that more people will think they have a chance of getting in this year and hence demand increases. However on the other hand you see a lot of people under the perception that the UAI indicates the quality of the course and therefore demand may decrease that way.

so ye the suspense is killing me

 

[s1mplykat]

The thing with private colleges is that they provide a technical education. If your technical abilities are not good enough than you won't be competitive enough in the industry. I am not going to into it too much but the reason for studying Design at university is to appreciate and understand the history behind it. If you studied Medical Science, Chemistry - what use are you as a scientist or doctor if you can mix chemicals but you don't know your history of the elements, know the theory behind the theories by Einstein, Newton? The same practice applies to Design. That's why the industry is so saturated with so many so called desigers when they can't apply layout and typography. That's why the statement is relevant because they don't want to see students who think because the person knows Photoshop so well, he can get in. That's why the design industry isn't taken as seriously as in London or USA.

It's quite an achievement that UTS got the Dyson Award in 2005 and from they many designers that I keep hearing about whether be word of mouth, magazines, online folios, studios/agencies many of them have been past UTS graduates.

nicely put mike.. i was just going to give a lazy 'private colleges=$$$$$$$$$' but yes, u defintley out did that.. =P

and thanks for all the replies.. they've really helped..

 

[hellomike]

I felt that in 2006, the course dropped in terms of UAI because not many people chose it but it does not in anyway indicate the course is bad, no no that's the wrong way to look at it.

Again, it's the nature of the course and I am sure UTS will see who is serious enough to want admission.

 

[s1mplykat]

btw, hellomike and Calla, sorry to be noesy but what is this 'interview' u guys were talking about..?

 

[Calla]

its the interview process the non-current school leavers have to go through as a means of evaluating your worthiness of the course....it includes showing up with a portfolio and being asked questions etc

btw hellomike, im not saying that i see UAI as an indicator of course quality - im saying that theres a generous amount of people out there that do.

 

[s1mplykat]

what course was it that u wanted to apply for?

 

[Calla]

what course was it that u wanted to apply for?

UTS B design (visual comm)...nearly all (or all , not sure) design courses at UTS for non-current high school leavers will require them to go through the personal statement and interview process before they are accepted. So if you want to transfer to UTS for next year, then u will have to go through the same process hellomike and i went through.