Race (5 Viewers)

[Lundy]

I think he was trying to see how many times he could contradict himself in the one sentence.

 

[jhakka]

I'm honestly non-discriminant when it comes to girls (except black ones), and I can find girls from literally any race to be attractive. But when it comes to have her as my long term gf/wife, then I'll stick to Asians.

TRANSLATION: I'm not racist, but I would never want to spend more than five minutes with someone who isn't Asian.

 

[iambored]

lol, i didn't get that quote either, lol lol

just because people are attracted to the 'look' of certain people, either blonde / brunette / asian etc. doesn't mean they will discriminate against others for a relationship and it certainly doesn't mean they are racist. if blue is your favourite colour are you going to be racist against the other colours or avoid buying red clothes?

this thread is about being attracted to a certain 'look.'

 

[Soma]

I have only ever hooked up with/gone out with Caucasians but I find some Asians really hot, just don't really know many.

 

[meshy]

...not all asian girls are like that ...are they?

no they're not - but I'd say most are (again I'm talking about northern asian girls, not aussie born).

Ultimately race is just outward appearance. It's complete bullshit to say that one race posses certain qualities ("mystique"? wtf??) that other races don't. Way to make a sweeping generalisation.

Haha you must be pretty dim to assume that all races are "the same on the inside". Do you go to uni yet? If you do I suggest you take a few psychology or med electives, you'll soon see that different races possess different qualities (the one I gave as an example was that northern asian girls are (generally) conservative). Sure there's ones who don't fit the mould, but there is minorities with every group.

You must be either really ignorant or naive to think that everyone's the same on the inside "ultimately race is just outward appearance" - that race is only skin deep

And I don't think it's racist at all to say who you're most attracted to (I take offence to being branded "racist" for posting in this thread). It's not something one can help. In the end that attraction is only physical anyway. However I think it's bordering on racist to purposely disregard certain races ("I'll only ever marry a such-and-such"). As I've said before I don't believe in setting limits like that.

I agree with that, as Asylum said it's human to have preferences

 

[meshy]

Where the hell do you get uni subjects telling you that its a racial trait that Northern Asian girls are conservative? From what i know conservatism is a result of enviromental factors not racial traits...

Well you'd be wrong. I've read several studies (and before you bag med or psych studies, please at least offer me somewhere else to get objective info from) in which (to continue this example) asians were raised by foster parents in countries such as Sweden and Norway, yet continued to display these traits (different to their classmates).

Lets see? Define conservative? Are these asian girls short or tall? Fat or slender? Is there a correlation between northern asian girls who eat breakfast at 8.50am and conservatism?

What the hell are you talking about?

It sounds like you base your racial ideas on being a med student...i hope you realise the impact they have on public policy

What racial ideas? Where did I say that one race was better than another?
It's quite simple - all I'm saying is that different races look different and (generally) act different - that's all, I don't mean anything bad by it.

would anyone like to play the racial sterotype game with me? like mr med student above wants to play you seem quite happy to say that a group of people 'generally' have definate traits thats means im justified in saying the below...

You are an asian med student...you have a small penis (i mean like small)...you cannot get laid...you drive a honda or a toyota...you are physically weak...you call everthing cute...you are ugly...

i have decided that everyone i your race 'generally' has those traits

If you used "probably" in front of all of those, some of the time you'd be correct (I know nothing you wrote was from an academic source and straight from baseless stereotypes - maybe you should try to distinguish stereotypes from generalisations ). I've noticed the majority of med students are asian, and those asians I know who do drive, generally drive Japanese and Korean cars. But I don't see your point?

I think you fail to see what (academically derived) generalisations are, and see them as the same thing as stereotypes.

 

[meshy]

I would still call that environmental...possibly due to different looks they feel the need to confrom to asian sterotype...awareness that they are different...being differnet to everone around tends to make people be quiet and conservative

i prefer to look elsewhere rather than take the easy way out and say its a racial trait ...

i'd say the easy way out is to always argue for political correctness.

 

[Lundy]

Haha you must be pretty dim to assume that all races are "the same on the inside". Do you go to uni yet? If you do I suggest you take a few psychology or med electives, you'll soon see that different races possess different qualities (the one I gave as an example was that northern asian girls are (generally) conservative). Sure there's ones who don't fit the mould, but there is minorities with every group.

When did I say all races are the same on the inside? If you had read my post properly you would know I was talking about making sweeping generalisations about an entire race. You agree with me that not everyone in a race has the same qualities.

 

[Lundy]

A person could be north asian but have spent most of their life in australia thus having many "australian" traits. Racially, they're still asian, but they lack these apparently universal asian "qualities" you speak of. Personality is something that is developed, not embedded into you from birth.

 

[meshy]

When did I say all races are the same on the inside?

Here:

Ultimately race is just outward appearance.

If you had read my post properly you would know I was talking about making sweeping generalisations about an entire race. You agree with me that not everyone in a race has the same qualities.

Yep, individual differences.

A person could be north asian but have spent most of their life in australia thus having many "australian" traits. Racially, they're still asian, but they lack these apparently universal asian "qualities" you speak of. Personality is something that is developed, not embedded into you from birth.

I dunno about that - where's your evidence to say that personality is developed (nurture) and not embedded from birth (nature)? Or do you just say it cos it seems a fair idea?

 

[Lundy]

Wtf? "outward" means "external." How the hell did you interpret that as "races are same on the inside"? You're an idiot.

 

[Lundy]

I dunno about that - where's your evidence to say that personality is developed (nurture) and not embedded from birth (nature)? Or do you just say it cos it seems a fair idea?

I'm not a scientist, there could be some "personality gene" for all I know. However you can't say that environment has nothing at all to do with it.

 

[meshy]

Wtf? "outward" means "external." How the hell did you interpret that as "races are same on the inside"? You're an idiot.

Are you serious?

Ultimately race is just outward appearance.

If you state that race is just "outward appearance", that implies races are the same on the inside, if the only race difference is just "outward appearance", idiot

I'm not a scientist, there could be some "personality gene" for all I know. However you can't say that environment has nothing at all to do with it.

I think environment has heaps to do with it, but I believe that at least some of your personality is genetic, and I base this on what I've learnt at uni so far..

 

[Lundy]

If you state that race is just "outward appearance", that implies races are the same on the inside, if the only race difference is just "outward appearance", idiot

Ahhh no....you know that's not what I meant.

 

[meshy]

PC is there for a good reason...do you want me to be all non PC again and start calling you named based on non PC assumptions...

I think sometimes political correctness is just the fallback for those who choose to turn a blind eye to evidence:

i prefer to look elsewhere rather than take the easy way out and say its a racial trait

Where do you look for this info Asquithian? Your own subjective experiences?

If, according to you, the evidence from med and psychology journals/research is the "easy way out", where can I look for better info on this topic?

Ahhh no....you know that's not what I meant.

haha nah that's really how I took it, but anyway..

 

[meshy]

your medical journals are wrong...they also allow people to justify treating certain groups of being in certain ways...

What journal are you specifically referring to? I've never read any journal that allows ppl to justify treating certain groups in certain ways.

i cant believe you think its right to think like that...

I don't think like that, and I've never read anything to that effect either.

to presume that girls from northern China are conservative is just so hopelessy wrong...What is conservatism? What we consider as conservative changes over time...how can you ever suggest that conservatism is a racial...its like saying arrogance is a racial trait...

What girls from Northern China? I never said that!

The replicated study I referred to was about northern asians who were raised by foster (Swedish) parents in countries such as Sweden and retained traits found in the majority of those sampled in their biological parents' homeland (i.e. mainly Korea and Japan). The point was that racial traits are not just the outcome of environmental differences (as you'd baselessly argue), but are partially influenced by genetics.

And who cares if what we consider as conservative changes over time - guess what - so do studies, so do laws, so does everything. Again, you say things, but come to no (valid) point!

Should we suspend all studies in med, law etc because in the future some definitions may be changed?

 

[iambored]

i think he said in the next sentence what it proved- that "racial traits are not just the outcome of environmental differences (as you'd baselessly argue), but are partially influenced by genetics"

 

[berry580]

I think he was trying to see how many times he could contradict himself in the one sentence.

TRANSLATION: I'm not racist, but I would never want to spend more than five minutes with someone who isn't Asian.

Ok, I think a major reconstructuction is required inorder to shut people's @$$hole up. (Need translation? Do you get that or not?)



Edition 1.1- I can find attractive girls from all races, but black ones. But when it comes to finding a girl as a long term partner, then I'll stick to Asians.

Need an Edition 1.2?

 

[paper cup]

Ok, I think a major reconstructuction is required inorder to shut people's @$$hole up. (Need translation? Do you get that or not?)



Edition 1.1- I can find attractive girls from all races, but black ones. But when it comes to finding a girl as a long term partner, then I'll stick to Asians.

Need an Edition 1.2?

oh, go away.

 

[Jago]

what is wrong with black girls you little racist?