Congratulations on the tuckwell - I didn't make it past the interviews.Yes.
What uni you reckon will get me into Harvard as a postgrad?
2 of my cousins got into Harvard as postgrads and they graduated from ANU. Does that make a difference?
Wait a second, you haven't actually studied at ANU? So you're currently in year 12 as well? Lol, what makes you think you're qualified enough to criticise ANU? Why'd you apply for Tuckwell if you absolutely despise of the ANU anyway? And to think I was going to give up 100K based on YOUR opinion.Congratulations on the tuckwell - I didn't make it past the interviews.
Any university can get you into US leagues if you have high GPA / sound extracurriculars / good application / decent externals.
If you're doing law, Usyd has harvard as an exchange partner, that's about the closest you can get to an advantage in ivy admissions. UNSW specializes in their business school, and they have Wharton as an exchange partner.
Again, not enough context. For most students at ANU, if you have a 90 WAM and a polished application - you're probably fine.
ANU has no ivy exchange partners, so you're not going to get any special treatment. Generally for undergraduate, because Australia's top 4 Go8's are largely undifferentiated it doesn't matter when you apply for postgraduate - however if you get an exchange in the US it can greatly improve your chances of acceptance (granted you also have excellent scores).
Umelb - Yes, they have ivy exchange partners. (Upenn, Princeton, Cornell, Columbia)Also, I'm going to move to America anyway. I've heard ANU and UMELB have better recognition and reputation over at the states. That's all I care about.
Most people who are actually studying at ANU don't take the time to research the admissions process and quality of ANU. I'm from the US, sibling studying at Ivy as transfer from Au. I study some of my math at ANU.Wait a second, you haven't actually studied at ANU? So you're currently in year 12 as well? Lol, what makes you think you're qualified enough to criticise ANU? Why'd you apply for Tuckwell if you absolutely despise of the ANU anyway? And to think I was going to give up 100K based on YOUR opinion.
I'm not 'salty' about ANU. I have enough criticism of it as I do of UNSW. This is an ANU subforum, and a thread where other users are criticizing ANU.Honestly, if I were so salty about a Uni as you are about ANU, I would've transferred. I'm curious, MikeLloyd, why are you still studying at the ANU? Why not transfer to a more 'selective' school like UNSW or USYD?
I'll message you some of my thoughts (emphasis it's my opinion, feel free to disagree) tomorrow morning.I would love to hear your criticism on UNSW and USYD
Umelb, USYD and UNSW are my other options (in that order) and I really want a balanced opinion on all four of my options!
Well said, and I mean this genuinely. As we don't seem to be getting each other's points across and our debate isn't moving in particularly productive direction, however, let's just leave it here – all those smart, critical-minded applicants can make up their own mind.Alternatively, as intelligent adults using the internet, we can present arguments and debate the quality of universities using available information and facts, future university students can read and filter that information and form an opinion on the the quality of those universities. In this example, it is the responsibility of said students to use their brain and critical thinking to process facts.
You're spot on about ANU having not-so-great exchange partners. That is a criticism I can get behind, and it's probably the one thing that really annoyed the heck out of me while I was an undergrad there.Umelb - Yes, they have ivy exchange partners. (Upenn, Princeton, Cornell, Columbia)
USyd - Yes, ivy exchange partners. (Upenn, Princeton, Cornell, Columbia, Harvard)
UNSw - Yes, ivy exchange partners. (Upenn (Wharton), Princeton, Cornell, Columbia)
ANU - No ivy partners.
ANU w/ Tuckwell is pretty much as good as it gets if you're staying in Australia.You reckon I should give up my scholarship and not go ANU?
Well, I'm an ANU alumnus so I figured I'd give some feedback so people can see the other side of things. The job aspect is very real and it's only going to get tougher for grads in the coming years, if you choose to move to Canberra and choose to focus on the Canberra job market without understanding what that really means until you move back to Sydney in frustration 8 months after you graduate, you can do yourself lasting damage.You're absolutely right. I have been planning on studying at the ANU since year 10, but the 15min I spent reading these posts (not sure why OP even made this thread in the first place? What point are you trying to provie Dichromate? That ANU doesn't deserve its #1 rank?) have influenced me so much to the point I'm willing to give up my scholarship and goals. Can someone who actually studies at ANU give a better perspective?
I can sit here and make a thread on the reasons to reconsider UNSW/USYD all I want but I know some people on this site endeavour to study at those institutions, so why be salty about it?
Just regarding the bonus points, ANU has always been extremely generous to students from regional areas and sucks in a lot of students from regional NSW (and some from further afield) that way.There is a common perception by prospective Y12 students that ANU is more prestigious, and many are deceived by the "1st in Australia Rank" line (QS Stars have very questionable credibility). This, for the most part comes down to ANU having no competition apart from UC which caters to a very different demographic - and that there is no other Go8 university in the ACT to compare it to. Even with the 'monopoly' of prestige ANU has, they still cannot generate the demand they need for many of their courses to justify selectivity - with the internal transfer requirements being much lower than the ATAR equivalents, and the ATAR requirements being notoriously low across the board.
It was only until this year that ANU removed academic bonus points from LLB because every man and his dog was getting 5+ bonus points, and in other courses that are considered difficult and selective (I.e Actuarial Science), there is automatic allocation of bonus points for meeting the prerequisite criteria.
If the ATAR requirement for Act Sci is 95, and by meeting the requirements there is an automatic allocation of 5 bonus points, then technically the ATAR requirement should be 90 without academic bonus points. Compared to UNSW and Macquarie that have entry requirements of 98 and 97.5 respectively with no bonus points. This occurs for nearly every course ANU offers, making the advertised ATAR cut-offs very questionable.
These are only some of the pet-peeves I've found as a prospective student, and I'm sure there are many more. ANU is one of the worst when it comes to faking selectivity.
Fenner hall is effectively being moved to the Bruce site, the buildings are old and not in great condition, they'll probably sell the site once light rail is done or turn it into another unilodge style thing.- The on campus experience is excellent BUT IT'S GETTING WORSE. They are steadily getting rid of the ANU owned public colleges and replacing them with expensive dorms. Unilodges are expensive, full of international students and have no college culture. They are getting rid of Bruce Hall, the oldest and probably the best college on campus and replacing it with a Unilodge. B&G will probably follow soon. That will leave only Fenner, which is off campus, and Ursula, which is very small and two private colleges. Most people probably won't get a real college experience.
- They may have an accommodation guarantee but they don't guarantee where you end up. Most people end up getting shafted and sent to an expensive Unilodge, or if they're really unlucky, people sometimes wind up living in hotel rooms or god forbid, at the International Hotel School, where the staff treat lodgers like retarded highschool kids.
- The nightlife has changed a lot in Canberra. Most of the decent clubs have closed down. Braddon has become gentrified and is full of expensive cafes now and not much else. Most of the alternative scene is pretty much gone, the arty cinemas gone, the edgy clubs gone. I know quite a few people who are still studying their undergraduate degrees at ANU and from what they've told me the experience is much less fun than when I was there. There are still parties, but people tend to stay in, there isn't as much socialising as there used to be etc.
They'll reprivitise Ursula. With Bruce gone there are no economies of scale for their catering business.Fenner hall is effectively being moved to the Bruce site, the buildings are old and not in great condition, they'll probably sell the site once light rail is done or turn it into another unilodge style thing.
Building two halls in place of Bruce means they can axe Fenner without reducing their overall accommodation capacity, once they deal with fenner's site B&G will be next. They did pretty major fire safety renovations at B&G only a few years ago though, it'll probably hang on until 2020 or so but it's already 50+ years old and there's a clear move to do away with traditional colleges, they'll justify demolition based on the age of the building but replace it with something totally different to what's there (ie another unilodge)
Agreed that ANU will probably keep Ursula, they extended it with the shipping container things only ~6 years ago, and it's tucked in with the private colleges, they might try and sell it back to the Dominican order or something, either way there'll be an exclusive enclave of catered colleges up the end of Daley rd for the rich kids from Sydney, and everything else will be Unilodge style rip-off dorms packed to the brim with internationals with no real community.