Regarding would-be history teachers... (2 Viewers)

[darkroomgirl]

One of the lecturers I talked to during Enrolment Day said that to be qualified to teach history, I would have to do subjects from History, Ancient History AND Australian History. Can anyone tell me how this works? This year I'm doing only History subjects (The Middle Ages and Renaissance & Reformation). Does this mean that next year I'll have to do some Ancient History subjects, and the year after that, Australian History? I'm confused...

 

[fleepbasding]

now, I know that both of youse got teaching scholarship thingos. How much are they really worth? I mean, the website is a bit vague. Which UOS fees are paid for? just EDU ones, or your arts ones to, or all of them? And do they give you any pocket money? And yeah, do you get anything else out of them?

Thanks people!

 

[darkroomgirl]

I didn't get it! Not sure about which units of study they pay for, but you do get some pocket money every year, plus you're guaranteed a job after you graduate.

 

[lozzie17]

How did you manage to get that? Did you get a really good UAI?

 

[Mr_Shrimp]

Not really, actually. It was over 90, but not by much, so it wasn't amazing.

I got it through a really comprehensive application, good references and a 40-minute interview. The link in my sig goes to the site which explains everything.

What kind of questions do they ask at the interview (40 minutes sounds like A LOT of questions would be asked..)?

Also did you do much extra-curricular stuff? Or do you think it was mainly based on the interview along with a decent UAI/ marks in the subjects you want to teach ?

 

[montycreations]

how much extra curricular stuff did you do?

 

[jhakka]

Even if you only take ONE Australian and ONE Ancient, you'll be fine.

I'm taking 3 History and 1 Ancient this year. I'll probably only take one more Ancient next year, and try and cram in an Australian right near the end (so boring!), but because I've taken Ancient, Modern, Medieval, and Australian, I should be fine.

Biggest pain in the butt ever. I really should have looked into the requirements before choosing my units last semester. Now I have to do an extra History unit in my fifth year.

 

[Beanie]

Hey there!

Im in my third year of a BED/BA at Sydney and I'm teaching Hstory and English. What the lecturer meant was that in fulfuling the Arts component of your degree, it is good to do subjects are are quite varied and cover areas in Ancient History, Modern History and Australian History. This benefits you later on when you go for your job interviews in 5th year, and it shows that you have good subject matter knowledge in all areas of history. The Department of Education also looks more favourably on students who have studied as part of their arts component areas of history that are also studied in high schools, eg Ancient Greece.

For example, in my first year I did some Ancient, Modern and Australian History. In second year I did only Modern subjects and this semester I'm doing another Australian history subject. For my fourth year, I'll probably do another Senior Arts unit in Ancient History. Hope this helps, and good luck with the rest of Semester!

 

[hafcazt2env]

It pays for the lot - all my HECS, plus $1500 a year to spend on things like textbooks, union fees, computers, etc. Plus, you get a guaranteed permanent job when you finish the degree. It's worth about $30,000.

ahahah.. hey cool! i got this scholarship this yr too (history/eng teacher) my uai was 86.05 but they award the scholarships before hsc marks and uai's even come out. its all based on their belief as u in a teacher and weather or not u wanna teach out in the country.. it has its catches, they pay for EVERYTHING, but u gotta do min. 3 yrs workn in a non-rural coastal town or in south west syd.

teach.nsw has more info

 

[CrownerOf.Kings]

Hey there!

Im in my third year of a BED/BA at Sydney and I'm teaching Hstory and English. What the lecturer meant was that in fulfuling the Arts component of your degree, it is good to do subjects are are quite varied and cover areas in Ancient History, Modern History and Australian History. This benefits you later on when you go for your job interviews in 5th year, and it shows that you have good subject matter knowledge in all areas of history. The Department of Education also looks more favourably on students who have studied as part of their arts component areas of history that are also studied in high schools, eg Ancient Greece.

For example, in my first year I did some Ancient, Modern and Australian History. In second year I did only Modern subjects and this semester I'm doing another Australian history subject. For my fourth year, I'll probably do another Senior Arts unit in Ancient History. Hope this helps, and good luck with the rest of Semester!

..Then why on earth did one of the academic advisers tell me I had to specify in either Ancient or Modern history? Thats why I only took ancient history units this year? Is she wrong, or did something change?

Aleks

 

[knockii]

..Then why on earth did one of the academic advisers tell me I had to specify in either Ancient or Modern history? Thats why I only took ancient history units this year? Is she wrong, or did something change?

Aleks

Wondering the exact same thing... I also chose to specialise in Ancient, though I thought it was compulsory to complete at least some UOS' of Australian History...

 

[Horsegal98]

Wondering the exact same thing... I also chose to specialise in Ancient, though I thought it was compulsory to complete at least some UOS' of Australian History...

I'm a graduate, and i took both modern and archaeology units in order for the institute of teachers to accredit me to teach both ancient and modern history (the Stage 6 courses). There was no mandatory australian history, however I highly recommend Aus History at our uni.

 

[knockii]

I'm a graduate, and i took both modern and archaeology units in order for the institute of teachers to accredit me to teach both ancient and modern history (the Stage 6 courses). There was no mandatory australian history, however I highly recommend Aus History at our uni.

I think I read somewhere that you graduated with the combined BEd/BA... This year when we enrolled, we had to choose between either ancient or modern to specialise in, hence only being able to become accredited in one of them.

Was this the same situation you were in? If you were able to do both ancient and modern, perhaps the degree has changed since then. Regardless, I've taken up a straight BA in order to be able to study both ancient and modern

 

[Horsegal98]

Are the curriculum classes actually divided? When I went through, everyone did ancient classes with Carmel one day and modern classes with Tim the next. I had to take extra subjects within my arts degree in order to be accredited with both (the sequence of my arts degree is major in english with two minors, one in history one in archaeology).

 

[ac91]

Hey,
I know this is a USYD forum so don't jump down my throat and say that I'm on the wrong forum. lol.

I enrolled in Macquarie university the other day and I wish to become a MODERN history teacher.

We were told that we need to have before we graduate 24 credit points in either modern OR ancient history to satisfy the NSW teachers institute requirements.

In order to teach history the teachers institute only stipulates that you have done courses in one of the history's and you do not have to have done them all.

It is looked on more favourably with employment prospects however you do not have to have done all of these historys to be able to teach history unless USYD for some reason makes students do all of them??

I hope that helps you in some way.

 

[ac91]

I think I read somewhere that you graduated with the combined BEd/BA... This year when we enrolled, we had to choose between either ancient or modern to specialise in, hence only being able to become accredited in one of them.

Was this the same situation you were in? If you were able to do both ancient and modern, perhaps the degree has changed since then. Regardless, I've taken up a straight BA in order to be able to study both ancient and modern

at my uni we were told to specialise in 1 too.

 

[InBetweenDreams]

Here this is from the NSW Institue of teaching tells you what you have to have to be accredited

http://www.nswteachers.nsw.edu.au/I...ondary Teaching Mar 2009 - Updated Sep 09.pdf

 

[CrownerOf.Kings]

Damn I am confused now. Some ex students have urged me to take both histories, and Australian history.. and I really want to. Why are they making us take only all ancient or modern units? It wasn't that way two years ago...?

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[Hello2U2]

Hi everybody

I recently went to see someone from the ed department about the exact same thing a few days ago and here's what he said.

From next year onwards the requirements for history teachers will chance. the NSWIT requires that in order to be eligible to teach history at a senior level you need to choose - ancient or modern. To do a mix of everything will qualify you for a history major but not qualify you to teach modern/ancient/australian. What you COULD do though is to satisfy the requirements for one (eg ancient) and do some modern later for your elective subjects - so when you add those up you could count them as your MINOR area and you can teach both.

It sounds confusing and I'm pretty sure I would have explained it better. But thats the general jist of it. Check out NSWIT's website for more info.