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A guitar.

I would think that is one of the most common reasons.

- A guitar
- A car
- A trip
- An Xbox
- Paying Debt
- Porn
 

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Jase said:
A guitar.

I would think that is one of the most common reasons.

- A guitar
- A car
- A trip
- An Xbox
- Paying Debt
- Porn
Saving for porn??? Dude havent u heard of kazaa.
 
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I'm currently saving up for some of my expenses next year and because having large numbers in my bank accounts makes me feel happy.

Oh, and so I have a small stash of money for people's birthday presents this coming year. I don't want to be short again.
 

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I am working for a deposit on a house.. trading/investing on the share market with my capital.
 

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LeftrightOut said:
I don't agree with a lot of crap he says, he's also been known to straight out lie about various things. Here's an interesting site that debunks a lot of what he says in his books. it's fairly lengthy but anyone who blindly follows any investment book should read it to see that one strategy will not work for everyone. http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html


And then you'll get pulled in for defrauding them.
http://www.oas.org/Juridico/MLA/en/bhs/en_bhs-ext-law-1994.html
http://www.cfatf.org/

The great expat hideaways are slowly being eroded as the countries struggle to enter the world trading and financial arena with bad legislation. A lot of people still think it's the perfect getaway to put money into a swiss/jersey/cayman bank account but really they're mostly rank amateurs when it comes to high stakes money laundering and hiding.


? What definition are you using? what do you consider a stable environment to be? and what is long term? Investing in shares can be a long term thing, ask anyone who bought Berkshire Hathaway shares when they first floated if they regreted not going in and out :D



I would consider purchasing more shares on a loan than property but then again I favour liquidity and quick access to capital plus larger amounts of diversification. You can buy a lot of different shares for $100,000 you can't really buy a large number of houses for the same price :) Some like the security of houses though which is fine I guess, they just have to remember while they are servicing a loan they never actually own the place but pay upkeep for it.

We live in a consumer society and yes savings are not valued highly in such circumstances. So all you non-conformist rebels should be saving your money to show society how non-conforming you are.
robert kiyosaki does not sell investment strategies and he teaches you not from his books or video tapes, rather it's only when you buy his products that you realise the ideal he is really trying to push through. Being a customer to his various products and i admit his theories are very very fundamental with little technical relevance, but when u realise the fact that you've been continuously ripped off by his 'childish yet eye-opening' theories, you start to think 'why am i still on my bum reading his fantasy stories, while he's making his dreams come true selling his stories', and that's the lesson i learned from his, and one that i fully appreciate.

maybe you like banks, but i certainly don't.

safe environment is one that doesn't flatuate greatly based on a newspaper cover story. long term is longer than short term.

shares doesn't always give you quick access to cash, unless of course you don't have a stop loss margin :D

i save money, and i endorse saving, only if there's a reason behind it.
 

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jayz said:
robert kiyosaki does not sell investment strategies and he teaches you not from his books or video tapes, rather it's only when you buy his products that you realise the ideal he is really trying to push through. Being a customer to his various products and i admit his theories are very very fundamental with little technical relevance, but when u realise the fact that you've been continuously ripped off by his 'childish yet eye-opening' theories, you start to think 'why am i still on my bum reading his fantasy stories, while he's making his dreams come true selling his stories', and that's the lesson i learned from his, and one that i fully appreciate.
It is well known that he had no publishing empire BEFORE MLM companies started pushing him. That is the reason he pushes MLM as a viable alternative when most other literature would suggest the opposite, he is giving back to those that promoted him when things were not going well. He is using a shotgun approach trying to encompass as many people into buying his stuff in one go as possible and working off of over hyped reviews from people who had no idea that spending more than you make and buying useless items is not a good way of getting rich. If he can manage to get rich from telling people how they can get rich without actually telling them much then good for him :D it takes a lot to be a full time shyster and stand out from the crowd of others.

jayz said:
maybe you like banks, but i certainly don't.

safe environment is one that doesn't flatuate greatly based on a newspaper cover story. long term is longer than short term.
I guess you must really like your local loan sharks that carry baseball bats when you go looking for loans :) You'll find once you go over a certain amount of working capital the banks will be more friendly and generous.

Got anymore Doctor Philisms? How about "Life is a marathon, it's not a sprint."

jayz said:
shares doesn't always give you quick access to cash, unless of course you don't have a stop loss margin :D

i save money, and i endorse saving, only if there's a reason behind it.
I can still get out of shares quicker than you can sell a house. Whether it is at a loss or not is irrelevant it's purely the ability to turn it back into cash we are discussing. How would you feel if the housing market crashed and you needed to get your money out and had to wait X weeks to do it at a significant loss? Don't act like the housing market can only go up. In the same manner not all shares will lose you money, if you find your shares have increased in value you can get rid of them that very moment, if you find your house has increased you get to wait for everything to finalise.

I endorse saving without a reason, it's better than spending without a reason.
 

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im saving for a car... i have $5000 so far and my parents are letting me get a another $5000 loan from the bank to get a decent second hand car. bah after that i guess ill be saving up to repay this loan :)
 

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I'm saving up for a car. I'll hopefully be able to get one by the end of my holidays (fingers crossed).
 

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I've got a bit together for my trip overseas next week, other than that, it's pretty much my accommodation next year, and all other expenses.

Thank god for centerlink and credit cards...

(Im not really much of a saver...)
 

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i'm working my butt off to go to europe at the end of next year, i've got enough already but hmm i want more.
 

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LeftrightOut said:
It is well known that he had no publishing empire BEFORE MLM companies started pushing him. That is the reason he pushes MLM as a viable alternative when most other literature would suggest the opposite, he is giving back to those that promoted him when things were not going well. He is using a shotgun approach trying to encompass as many people into buying his stuff in one go as possible and working off of over hyped reviews from people who had no idea that spending more than you make and buying useless items is not a good way of getting rich. If he can manage to get rich from telling people how they can get rich without actually telling them much then good for him :D it takes a lot to be a full time shyster and stand out from the crowd of others.



I guess you must really like your local loan sharks that carry baseball bats when you go looking for loans :) You'll find once you go over a certain amount of working capital the banks will be more friendly and generous.

Got anymore Doctor Philisms? How about "Life is a marathon, it's not a sprint."



I can still get out of shares quicker than you can sell a house. Whether it is at a loss or not is irrelevant it's purely the ability to turn it back into cash we are discussing. How would you feel if the housing market crashed and you needed to get your money out and had to wait X weeks to do it at a significant loss? Don't act like the housing market can only go up. In the same manner not all shares will lose you money, if you find your shares have increased in value you can get rid of them that very moment, if you find your house has increased you get to wait for everything to finalise.

I endorse saving without a reason, it's better than spending without a reason.
Your views and opinions i have no objections to, trusting your own beliefs is certainly one thing i hold nothing against.

i don't like banks and that's my 2 cents.

it's hard defining something when the defined is placed in different contexts, therefore i can only make relative definitions.

i don't own a house or shares atm, also take note i said 'shares doesn't always give you quick access to cash' not shares doesn't give you quick access to cash.

spending without a reason teaches you why you should save, saving without a reason teaches you nothing.

btw i truly appreciate your views and concerns
 

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jayz said:
spending without a reason teaches you why you should save, saving without a reason teaches you nothing.

btw i truly appreciate your views and concerns
I agree you have very nicely put views :)

But spending without reason does not teach you anything until you run out of money and need it. Think of all the rich kids who have no idea what money is worth because they were never in the situation where it didn't just come out of the trust fund or family account.
 

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LeftrightOut said:
I agree you have very nicely put views :)

But spending without reason does not teach you anything until you run out of money and need it. Think of all the rich kids who have no idea what money is worth because they were never in the situation where it didn't just come out of the trust fund or family account.
that's why spending noney can also teach you why you should earn money
 

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jayz said:
that's why spending noney can also teach you why you should earn money
Not if you are in the situation where you always had money. When parents always bail you out then you really don't care that you don't save, until the parents stop bailing you out.

Getting into a cycle of buying little knick knacks because you have the money can also lead to you developing a cycle where you always justify the pruchase of such even when you can not afford it later on, putting yourself into serious debt. How many people go buy a brand new $30k+ car with a loan when they get their first job paying more than 25k a year? In my experience it is far too many, and I believe the figures relating to consumer debt back me up on that.

Without a clear outcome at the end of buying something for the hell of it the result can be a lot more negative than positive. Spending money if you have it does not teach you any lessons until you run out of money, by that time you have developed bad habits already.
 

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LeftrightOut said:
Not if you are in the situation where you always had money. When parents always bail you out then you really don't care that you don't save, until the parents stop bailing you out.

Getting into a cycle of buying little knick knacks because you have the money can also lead to you developing a cycle where you always justify the pruchase of such even when you can not afford it later on, putting yourself into serious debt. How many people go buy a brand new $30k+ car with a loan when they get their first job paying more than 25k a year? In my experience it is far too many, and I believe the figures relating to consumer debt back me up on that.

Without a clear outcome at the end of buying something for the hell of it the result can be a lot more negative than positive. Spending money if you have it does not teach you any lessons until you run out of money, by that time you have developed bad habits already.
true. i admit i am going through a period of reasonless spending and that's not my parents money btw, but then again as long as you enjoy what you've exchanged with the money, it's all good, after all wats the value of money if you don't spend it.
 

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Trying to save up for a ferrari ... but i know that i will never be able to afford one, lol, so it looks like i'll just have to save for a ford.
Saving money to go to Europe hopefully next year or the year after and also saving money for a rainy day.
 

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m saving for wen i move out next yr with my bf....n also checkin out places with ncie but cheaos furniture...imworking at the new rhodes shopping centre n went to Ikea today... FAARRCCCK its huge i could splurge there soooo bad! lol anyways....
 

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Personally still saving to move out to Interstate, after that i probably be saving 20% of my income per week for a deposit on a home. I personally like building up on consistent weekly basis.
 

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