Stethoscopes (1 Viewer)

[tkdwhiz1188]

Juz out of curiousity...when do med students in the diff. unis start using a stethoscope? LOL...it makes me happy juz thinking abt it!

 

[Keen]

Probably a little bit in first (can get by without one) and moreso in second, and it just gets more especially 4-6th. I'm talking about Adelaide but I presume it's pretty similar elsewhere.

Keen

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

nah its better to hav one.. amy ripped me for not being prepared..
in cardiology they hav hot steth.. ^^...

wait till u kno how to read a 12 lead.. now tat shits exciting..

 

[Lexicographer]

UWA start you off second semester of first year. That's not where the fun is - palpation is where it's at.

 

[Lexicographer]

Um that's the thing with med...it's different at every uni.

And you don't learn surgery until after you graduate.

 

[kimmeh]

Vet students use stethoscopes at their own will in first year to get used to handling animals and listening to their heartbeats. I dont know when we start seriously using them.

 

[Lexicographer]

Well, we used auscultated for (officially) the first time in physiology lab today. Only listening for normal heart sounds though, just looking for a clear sound to match against ECG.

I won a prize for having the best sinous rythm. Hooray for me, and my perfectly functional heart!

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

i learn to read ECG's and match up too..
then listen for 3rd 4th HS ... and stuff.. then learn the reason for their existance ..

i did an ECG at hospital.. and observed a cardiac stress test.. take bloods .. give injections... do simple tasks.. twas fun

 

[Lexicographer]

3rd and 4th? We were told that they're bloody hard. Of course, that was an anatomist talking, so let's see what the clinicians say.

 

[dark`secrets]

we (nursing students) started using stethosopes since semester one

 

[Mambomeg]

if you practice on a horse you can hear all 4 heart sounds... but dont be scared if they miss a beat, horses do that when resting.
btw, hi kimmeh! havent seen you in ages!

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

yeah humans ones are actualli just subtle.. cos they are smaller than horses..
if u had pathology in human .. u can hear it.. and it sounds weird..

electronic steths can hear the 3rd 4th in all humans.. cos they are so sensitive.. see physiology book

Curiously, do horse hav the mitral, pul, aortic and tricuspid auscultation areas in the same place as humans?
and apex beat too?

 

[inasero]

id imagine theyre in different locations, seeing as they're horses!
but in reply to the original question, at monash cardiovascular is covered in first semester of second year so thats when it might be a good idea to buy a steth, but theyre only strictly required in the clinical years (3-5)

 

[kimmeh]

btw, hi kimmeh! havent seen you in ages!

Hi meg I know ! The life of a vet student.. busy busy

Expensive.
The electronic Littmans are around $800.

haha wtf theyre more like $1000 arent they ?

 

[Lexicographer]

Student pricing is t3h r0x.

 

[kimmeh]

well we get them at student pricing but theyre still rather expensive.

 

[Lexicographer]

Yeah, but they'll be expensive no matter what you do. For things that you MUST buy (like food and stethoscopes) it's not the real expense that matters as much as the relative expense.

 

[velox]

my sister won a stethoscope at amsa, but the raffle was run by curries so i think it was rigged

 

[kimmeh]

Yeah, but they'll be expensive no matter what you do. For things that you MUST buy (like food and stethoscopes) it's not the real expense that matters as much as the relative expense.

I agree. I dont mind hauling money out for stethoscopes/food provided theyre reasonable, i mean, i wouldnt be doing much with an electric cardiology stethoscope. If a dog steps/bites it then $1000 goes down the drain pretty easily. I guess its okay for doctors/med students to get them because i highly doubt that their patients would do the same as a vets

 

[kimmeh]

On another note, i actually used mine *propely* (trying it on my dog isnt included) today and I feel very special. I had a dog show to attend to and the dogs were absolutely gorgeus! *points to display pic*