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mate, you're not the only one who has skiied overseas...

Believe me, we are on the same wavelength but I was letting ppl know u can make the most out of skiing in australia, which for most ppl, is the only place they can afford to ski.

you're real lucky that u've had the oppurtunity to actually ski powder snow (believe me, I cringe when ppl tell me how good the "powder" snow is in thredbo) I stood in disbelief when I first skiied in it in the south of france, I stuck my ski a foot in it, shifted it back and forth and it was like there was nothing, like skiing in a cloud of no resistance. You wouldn;t even begin to compare thredbo..

you may not be, but you certainly sound like a pompous stuck up snob saying thredbo is shit cause the snow is so much better if you go skiing in europe and america.

If you really do love skiing, then no matter where you are, whether its in whistler (which has pretty wet snow anyway) or solid gunk out of bounds in thredbo, u'll be first chair up and last run down...
 

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gordo said:
mate, you're not the only one who has skiied overseas...

Believe me, we are on the same wavelength but I was letting ppl know u can make the most out of skiing in australia, which for most ppl, is the only place they can afford to ski
Thats fair enough.

Although, I still believe NZ can often be a cheaper and better option than Australia. And Japan is also good value. The US is expensive, but is well worth it.

you may not be, but you certainly sound like a pompous stuck up snob saying thredbo is shit cause the snow is so much better if you go skiing in europe and america.
No, what I was saying is that short runs is a reality of skiing in Australia. The supertrail at Thredbo is a gimmick, as any resort can cut runs down to 1300metres if they wanted to (Buller actually goes this low, but its at a lower latitude and the summit is a lower altitude). However, snow cannot be relied upon at this altitude and for at least 2/3 of the time, all that is below 1600 or so metres is the manmade snow leading to the base.

If you really do love skiing, then no matter where you are, whether its in whistler (which has pretty wet snow anyway) or solid gunk out of bounds in thredbo, u'll be first chair up and last run down...
Utter rubbish. I rode 100 days out of 103 days, when I was in the US over our recent summer. No way in hell was I going to go first to llast lift (even if I was teaching). While I would always get up for 7.55 clinic (before lifts open for public) and would generally be riding at the end of the day, I might spend lunchtime just chilling in the lounge or sometimes just go home. Likewis e, when I was riding every weekend + a couple of week long trips in Australia (back at school), I would pick and choose my days. If it was rainy and windy, I'd be lucky if I would do two runs. Doesn't make you love the sport any more or any less. If you only go for a week, you tend to make the most of every single minute (ie. my riding last Australian season, where I did one day....I didn't even stop for a drink).

I haven't been to Whistler, so can't comment ;) (although I've been to BC and didn't think its that great for spending all the cash to travel 1/2 the world).
 

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haha sorry my bad once again

i meant u take first chair up last run down if u can't afford to go for long periods of time and u only spend 3 or 4 days in thredbo per year, especially when your forking out 80 bucks a day just for a lift pass.

wat about the 5km village trail they advertise, its practically do 1 turn, traverse across the entire mountain, do another turn traverse all the way back and repeat

Since u haven;t been to whistler I take it u didn;t do your ski instructor course there. I am very interested in doing mine at the end of this year, I heard good things about the course in whistler, can u reccomend anything?

dunno if u been to japan, but my parents went there in feb this year. They went to saporro I think. They said the snow is unbelievable but the weather is way too cold and the terrain isn;t very challening
 

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Since u haven;t been to whistler I take it u didn;t do your ski instructor course there. I am very interested in doing mine at the end of this year, I heard good things about the course in whistler, can u reccomend anything?

dunno if u been to japan, but my parents went there in feb this year. They went to saporro I think. They said the snow is unbelievable but the weather is way too cold and the terrain isn;t very challening
I haven't been to Japan but really do want to go. Unfortunantly, I don't think it will be for a while to get there.

Don't do the CASI Cert 1 Courses.

Basically, according to ISIA
CASI 1 = Nothing
CASI 2 = PSIA 1 = APSI 1
CASI 3 = PSIA 2 = APSI 2 = NZSIA 1
CASI 4 = PSIA 3 = APSI 3 = NZSIA 2

European Certs are hard to get (takes months), not sure about the British system or Japan.


Here are your options:

1. CASI - Canada
CASI 1 isn't recognised anywhere outside Canada. Its a guaranteed pass (even though PSIA 1 is basically a guaranteed pass too, but its considered a higher qualification). With CASI 1 you may be able to get a job at a Canadian resort teaching kids. That is about it. CASI certs (well atleast cert 1) doesn't require you to be employed at a Canadian ski school to get it. In fact CASI Cert 1 is a legal requirement that you get to work as a Canadian Instructor. Thats really all it is, a legal formality.

2. PSIA - USA
What I did, was went over on a J1 to Steamboat, did the hiring clinic and got hired full time. It was a risk, but I was pretty confident about getting it. This is one way to get into instructing. Than get your PSIA 1. PSIA certs require that you work for a ski school. This balances cost and ease of landing a job, but it is a risk. This is only an option if you are a student.

3. APSI - Australia
Each resort holds a hiring clinic in June for rookies. Attend one and you may land a job. Than you can get your APSI 1. This is a cheap option, but probably the hardest to get a job.

4. NZSIA - New Zealand
New Zealand is definantly the best option by far. But it is also the most hefty option by far. There are a number of private programs, ie. rookie Academy, where you spend like most of the season living there and they spend the whole time getting you up to a NZSIA 1 standard, to sit your exam at the end. These programs cost like $12,000NZ. So not cheap. You can also do similar programs through Otago Polytechnic and another Polytechnic, where the costs are cheaper (think about 1/3 of the private providers). Some resorts (ie. Cardrona) also run their own private instructor training, but not sure about the cost. NZSIA 1 will generally get you a job anywhere in North America, NZ and most places in Australia. North American resorts would also sponsor your visa (saving you money) with an NZSIA 1.

5. Europe
Don't know much about them, but there is a number of programs that can give you certs over there. Think there is one called Ski Like a Professional or something. Don't know much about it.

I am PSIA/AASI 1, but have passed 1/2 my 2 exam (I failed the teaching and didn't have chance to sit again before coming home. I did pass the Movement Analysis and Riding though).

Remember teaching is not for everyone. It sounds like a really good job, but I know a lot of people who hated it and will not be instructing again because they couldn't stand it. I personally loved it.
 

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