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I have added to the list -

The Individual & Society Supplementary Material:

NB: This list is compiled from the posts below. There is no need to read throught this whole thread.

- Links to useful websites
-- http://www.victorianweb.org/

- Novels
-- Anna & The King
-- Great Expectations (Dickens)
-- Anna Karenina (Tolstoy)
-- Jane Eyre (Bronte)
-- Frankenstein (Mary Shelly)
-- Tess if the D'Urbervilles (Hardy)
-- Vanity Fair
-- Great Expectations (Dickens)
-- Persuasion (Austen)
-- Power of One (Courtney)
-- Mill on the Floss (George Eliot)
-- Wuthering Heights (Emily Bronte)
-- The Awakening (Kate Chopin)
-- Oscar Wilde
--- The Picture of Dorian Gray
--- A Woman of No Importance

Mansfield Park (Austen) - we did this for prelim
Madame Bovary (Flaubert)
French Lieutenant's Woman - I know this is a set text for postmodernism but it's also helpful for ind and soc
Heart of Darkness (Conrad) - actually a novella, but anyway
If you're doing Ibsen, 'Pillars of Society', 'Ghosts' and 'Hedda Gabler' are good - Hedda is also good for Portrait
Les Miserables (Hugo)
Oscar and Lucinda (Carey)
Nana (Emilie Zola)
Jude the Obscure (Hardy)

- Short Story
-- The Kiss (Kate Chopin)
-- The Yellow Wallpaper (Charlotte Gilman)

- TV
-- Vanity Fair

George Elliot's Daniel Deronda

- Poetry
-- The Princess (Tennyson)
-- The Patriarch (Jane Thompson)
-- To The Men Of England (Percy Shelly)
-- Christina Rossetti
--- Goblin Market (doubles as an imaginative journey, about women, sexuality and objectification)
--- No, Thankyou, John
--- In an Artist's Studio
--- The Prince's Progress

Anything of Tennyson's is good, e.g. Lady of Shalot(t) or Ulysses

- Film
-- Anna & The King
-- Oliver! (Dickens/Bart)

Sense and Sensibility (Ang Lee)

- Non Fiction
-- A Woman's Thoughts About Women (Dinah Maria Mulock)
-- On Liberty (John Stuart Mill)
-- The journals of Dorothy Wordsworth
-- Cassandra (Florence Nightingale)

Communist Manifesto
The Origin of Species (Darwin)
The Art of the Renaissance (Ruskin)

- Critiques
-- "Ibsen's Women" Joan Templeton
-- Darcy's Body - privileging the female gaze: Lisa Hokins (good reading and excellent for stuff on how values are presenting, etc)
 

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braindrainedAsh said:
When I did I&S I used Bridget Jones's Diary as a related text because it is a contemporary appropriation of Pride and Prejudice..... even though you are supposed to use Victorian texts, I don't think I got marked down for it at all. My notes on Bridget Jones are on the main site, along with some stuff on Vanity Fair.

Also, another film that could be good is Picnic at Hanging Rock... it is set in 1900, so it could just scrape in to Victorian era. If you get the book "the films of Peter Weir" by Jonathan Rayner, it has a whole analysis of the film... stuff about how it represents repressed Victorian female sexuality due the patriarchy.... how the girl's escape in to the environment is a rebellion against society's rules etc.... it has really good analysis that would make the film work really well for I&S.... (I'm writing an essay on PAHR right now.... something about landscape representation and culture.... I'm procrastinating by posting this hehe).

I don't think the Vanity Fair film would work as well as the book or the miniseries though, it misses out so much stuff you couldn't analyze it in as much depth in my opinion.
No you can use either 19th century texts or transformations of 19th century texts like Bridget (P & P), or 20th century works which are set in the 19th century and are inspired by it - eg Oscar and Lucinda, French Lieutenant...
 

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This is what the school gave us (besides some listed above in other posts):

The Woman in White (Collins)
Sense and Sensibility (Austen)--I guess basically anything by Austen?
Middlemarch (Eliot)
The Portrait of a Lady (the film version)
House of Seven Gables (Hawthorne)

Thanks cherryblossom for confirming what kind of texts we can use--I thought it was only 19th century texts or 20th century transformations of those texts. It'd definitely widen my searching criteria.
 

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lala2 said:
This is what the school gave us (besides some listed above in other posts):

The Woman in White (Collins)
Sense and Sensibility (Austen)--I guess basically anything by Austen?
Middlemarch (Eliot)
The Portrait of a Lady (the film version)
House of Seven Gables (Hawthorne)

Thanks cherryblossom for confirming what kind of texts we can use--I thought it was only 19th century texts or 20th century transformations of those texts. It'd definitely widen my searching criteria.
make sure they're not superficial though!
 

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hey i was wondering if anyone has used "Yellow Wallpaper". I really liked it though i'm not sure how to explore the concept of the protagonist as an individual in the society...help?
 

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I hear 'Chocolat' (both the movie and the book) makes for good sup. material re. not only context, but with costume and set design, etc.
 

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hey, could be wrong, but doesn't the stimulus say that related material should be 19th century based? havent read chocolat for ages, but i think it was based in 1950's? anyone?
 

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My bad, I'm thinking of an assesment I have coming up. Sorry, I'm pretty sure you're right.
 

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ive been looking around for a visual text for an assesment for school and am doing Persuasion.., i also took a look at one made in 1947 based on Dickens - not sure of the name The Great Expectation?? something along those lines anyway. Both these films have a very authentic Victorian setting and found Persuasion very easy to compliment.
 

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From another thread...

LaraB said:
The Church (poem)
Tess of d'ubervilles
Anna Karenina
The Idiot
The Brotehrs Kamenev(not sure bout the name if that's right?)
Any essays by John Stuart Mill
The Turn of the Screw
Anything by ELizabeth Barrett Browning
The Mayor of Casterbridge
The Portrait of a lady
Middlemarch
The Last Chronicle of Barset
Persuasion - is a J.Austen one tho so don't use it if you're doing P&P coz its too similar
Vanity Fair
Bleak House
Rob Roy
Great Expectations
Wives and Daughters
The Count of Monte Cristo
Little Women
Les Miserables
The life and adventures of Nicholas Nickleby
David Copperfield
 

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My Brillian career - Miles Franklin
so much in relation to individual in society both the author and characters in the book... easy as pie
 

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albitros said:
ive been looking around for a visual text for an assesment for school and am doing Persuasion.., i also took a look at one made in 1947 based on Dickens - not sure of the name The Great Expectation?? something along those lines anyway. Both these films have a very authentic Victorian setting and found Persuasion very easy to compliment.
if you're looking for a visual text paintings are fine. there's one around called The First Cloud which is great if you're doing Portrait (let me guess, you're not. I think our school is one of the few that does). Statues are fine I think, there's a Greek mythology based one, the Rape of Cassandra or something, that is good for Browning.
Try any of the Pre Raphaelites - good for the concept of realism.

*sorry it's a bloody painting, it's just the bad photocopy made it look like a statue of a guy carrying a naked chick off. It's called Ajax and Cassandra and it's good for communicating how the Victorian era was unable to look at its own deep interest in the erotic - there's a mixture of purity and erotism...french lieut woman is really good for exploring the hypocrisy of the era you can use it for related material as I think I have said, but remember link it to the module and all...
 
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artwork is also great substitute... most of the novels that were written in the 19th Century are huge!

And most films made in our contemporary society give a view of what OUR CONTEMPORARY COMPOSER thinks of 19th Century Society and the individual in it.

That's why most teachers encourage OTR's from the 19th Century because it directly relates to Individuals in C19th Society.

You have to beat around the bush alot when you're analysing a film made now about the times back then, because you are talking about what the DIRECTOR thought not what the novelist i.e Oscar Wilde - Vanity Fair

For those who are doing the BBC Series of P&P remember it's what Langton thinks, not Austen. :p
 

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My friend and I are confused

We thought we were supposed to be studying texts from the 19th Century

How is Bryce Coutrney's "The Power of One" relevant to 19th century ways of thinking? It's not even set in the 19th century!!

Please unconfuse us!!
 

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there was a brilliant two part series on ABD a few months ago called 'fingersmith' and that i think is an excellent related material for individual and society. i really enjoyed that mini series. i hope to get it on dvd someday
 

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Does anyone know where I can get added information on Kate Chopin's "The Awakening"? Without sounding too desperate and stressed, I believe at this stage, I'm screwed. Any help would be grand.
 

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rnitya_25 said:
there was a brilliant two part series on ABD a few months ago called 'fingersmith' and that i think is an excellent related material for individual and society. i really enjoyed that mini series. i hope to get it on dvd someday
yes lol, if you ever want to write about lesbian porn in an exam this is the one for you
study buddy I have read that story - hold on I might have I don't remember. it depends on what texts you do in class and how well the themes and things tie in; whether you can get quite a cohesive discussion out of it. try out some other chopin stories if you're stuck - I did one of her stories, I don't remember the name now for an assessment task and I couldn't find much - try to analyse it yourself, her stories are simple enough.
 

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i've done P&P, ADH and Browning, going to do ADH and Browning for the big one though. I just found that analysing it myself-- I didnt really get as much out of it as I had hoped. My teacher said a while back that we should pretty much have equal info for our set texts and our relateds, so I'm panicking a bit.
 
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Yeah, I did the same texts, but I'm really screwed for related (especially if they have to have equal info as prescribed)- because I was told that i could do N&S, but it's a prescribed text.. so ih have to do another one. I've got notes for Tess, but does anyone know any poems that would be quicker?
 

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You could try Ulysses by Alfred Tennyson. We did that one as a class, and it was pretty good. Also relevant if you've done the Inner Journey.
 
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