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JamesTockuss said:
I think the titre volume (23.45mL) was for the Na2CO3 ---- while the 25mL was for the HCl samples.
Yeh it was and i had the sodium carbonate concentration at 0.05M.
 

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I got 0.1057 i think.

Also what did u guys get for that tablet question it was fucked.
 

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friction said:
I got 0.1057 i think.

Also what did u guys get for that tablet question it was fucked.
I put 1.7mg and then divided it by 4 because i thought they used 4 tablets in the sample. oh well thats 1 mark gone
 

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friction said:
I got 0.1057 i think.

Also what did u guys get for that tablet question it was fucked.
Did u keep all your numbers in your calculator, that could be the cause of a slightly off answer.
 

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Danz you are right just your are 10 x what you need. @ Fish bulb you did not factor in the 2:1 ratio therefor you got that not 0.1.

It is looking up now.
 

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friction said:
Danz you are right just your are 10 x what you need. @ Fish bulb you did not factor in the 2:1 ratio therefor you got that not 0.1.

It is looking up now.
Yeh i did bud.

Moles of Sodium Carbonate:

0.05 = Moles/0.02345

Therefore 2.345 x 10^-3 moles of HCL (Multiplying above answer by 2)

Molarity of HCL = (2.345 x 10^-3)/0.025

= 0.0938Mol/L
 

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i do calculation questions in past papers, and then i somehow always manage to not be able to do them in the exam itself.



i found calculations in today's paper so confusing.

plus zinc tablets - wtf?
plus what were the 2 redox reactions in the shipwrecks option. one was ag+ + 2e- --> ag(s)
what was the other?
i made up alot.
the other was the oxidation of water
 

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fishbulb said:
Yeh i did bud.

Moles of Sodium Carbonate:

0.05 = Moles/0.02345

Therefore 2.345 x 10^-3 moles of HCL (Multiplying above answer by 2)

Molarity of HCL = (2.345 x 10^-3)/0.025

= 0.0938Mol/L
I think i did it very much differently to you. I cant remember the question however.
 

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fishbulb said:
Yeh i did bud.

Moles of Sodium Carbonate:

0.05 = Moles/0.02345

Therefore 2.345 x 10^-3 moles of HCL (Multiplying above answer by 2)

Molarity of HCL = (2.345 x 10^-3)/0.025

= 0.0938Mol/L
100% correct i remember i got this aswell
hey i think with the zinc question were meant to divide by 4 because there were 4 tablets dissolved?
 

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Daniel-08 said:
100% correct i remember i got this aswell
hey i think with the zinc question were meant to divide by 4 because there were 4 tablets dissolved?
sweet, i thought we might of, i didnt read the question well so i dunno.
 

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The answer for the zinc question was 0.17 they clearly said AVERAGE absorbency, meaning that they had dissolved each of the tablets separately, measured their absorbency and averaged it.
 

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Ahhhhhh I forgot to times by 2!! How could I forget that. I haven't got a moles questions wrong since like day 1. Pretty funny actually.

Anyone know what the question was out of? 2? Meh, they better carry errors in chem lol.
 

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JamesTockuss said:
I think the titre volume (23.45mL) was for the Na2CO3 ---- while the 25mL was for the HCl samples.
the titre was HCl the acid therefore it was 23.45 the Na2CO3 was 25ml so the answer was the .1057 or whatever
 

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Confuciousnesss over that stupid titration.

If we used the wrong titre volume, then its 1 mark lost - big deal. lol
 

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I'm not gonna make some people feel bad by commenting on the difficulty of the paper. But i have to say that was the best paper i could of hoped for. No long winded essay questions that worth 6, 7 or 8 marks. Was so surprised when had to go through the paper to see so many calculations since i love calculations and only one single 7 marker in the industrial chem section. No 6 marker whatsoever.
I'm really glad we were given this paper though, after the shitness that was maths 3u adn 4u hsc exams and to an extent physics.
 

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aussiechick007 said:
yeah it seemed um... too good to be true!

hopefully that doesn't mean it"ll scale badly...
yeah it was very good i thought.
considering i was unprepared and not really ready for it.
they couldn't of made it easier on me

for industrial - do you think they'll notice i made up a cationic detergent "Mr Sheens carwash"?
haha i had no idea what to write for that 7 mark question.
i somehow related it back to solvay process and blabbed about that
anyways - good luck to you's all!
 

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i noticed most of u got 1.6V for the galvanic cell question...
But i'm certain u meant to use the 1/2 Cl2 (aq) + e- ---> Cl- 1.4V
rather than the 1/2 Cl2 (g) + e- ---> Cl- 1.36V

Because the Cl2 gas is bubbled into the water, forming aqueous solution. The gas one is used if it a sealed chamber filled with the gas in gaseous states im pretty sure.
So the voltage would be .24 + 1.40 = 1.64V
 

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