UMAT SCORE 300, UAI 100/ ENTER 99.95-which uni wuld u choose (2 Viewers)

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

Similarly for med schools, if a certain uni is more popular it will get the larger cut of smart students (depending on the criteria they use) who may (or may not) have a greater tendency to make it into surgical training programs later in life - in other words its not the uni which makes them more likely to be accepted, it's that the kind of people which get into the course which are more likely to be accepted (that is, if there is any difference in the first place). In any case, it ultimately comes down to the individual and what you're willing to work for.

yes some schools have ppl with out any communication skills might end up with specialist who have no interest in talking to patients..

unis with less emphasis on psychiatry will lead to less psychiatrist from their alumni..

but ultimately its the individual... and finding the balance.. like doing shit loads of extra curricular work .. and cramming to learn rather than get the best marks.. .. in fact i think that one of the things that sets those that are good from those that pass..
is a desire and interest to learn.. wanting to know more for the sake of completion if u have time.. is very good and stimulating.. and asking questions.. :wave:

 

[kido_1]

orthopedics is a very very elite specialty
in fact i would not consider doing it.. at major hospitals its very crazy and its very wow.. when u finally do it.. i was at a major hospital and i have to say these guys make u wonder how it was even possible to sleep 4 hrs a night and still function at such a high level..

they are very traditional and i respect that ill never be in their league.. so yeah ortho is long.. and so is maxillofacial.. and this is cos they realli want the most dedicated and 'best' performing doctors... when i say best i mean its practical not just academic... in terms of surgery they are the exception more than the rule..

Yeh I agree, orthopaedic surgery is way elite. However what in your mind is the MOST elite speciality(just out of interest). Some people argue it is opthalmic surgery, other cardio and neuro and plastic and oral...
Would you have any clue which speciality takes the shortest time and which speciality would take the longest?

NB:If your not going to be in there 'league' who will?

 

[KFunk]

If you're interested in training times check out this document (page 79 of the pdf, page 65 of the document... the next page has surgical sub-specialties):

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/601D99E4A4F08197CA256F8C000AEBCA/$File/mtrp8.pdf

The shortest training period belongs to general practice which you can complete in 3 years after completing PGY1 (post-graduat year 1). The longest specialty (in terms of minimum training period) is cardiothoracic surgery which takes a minimum of 8 years, not including PGY1.

 

[aussiechica7]

http://theunderweardrawer.homestead.com/twelvemedstudents.html

Check out the "one track mind" and the "gunner"

 

[kido_1]

If you're interested in training times check out this document (page 79 of the pdf, page 65 of the document... the next page has surgical sub-specialties):

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/601D99E4A4F08197CA256F8C000AEBCA/$File/mtrp8.pdf

The shortest training period belongs to general practice which you can complete in 3 years after completing PGY1 (post-graduat year 1). The longest specialty (in terms of minimum training period) is cardiothoracic surgery which takes a minimum of 8 years, not including PGY1.

Wow, if there is one document I wanted to give me a bit of a clue into the world of specialising it is that. Thanks massively for that link.
:wave:
Just wondering, in the surgery, they split it up into 9 components without including ENT and Opthalmic Surgery. How come there are ENT and Eye surgeons. Do they like have to do normal surgery then go into ENT or Opthal?

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

Yeh I agree, orthopaedic surgery is way elite. However what in your mind is the MOST elite speciality(just out of interest). Some people argue it is opthalmic surgery, other cardio and neuro and plastic and oral...
Would you have any clue which speciality takes the shortest time and which speciality would take the longest?

NB:If your not going to be in there 'league' who will?

no i meant in terms of workday.. and knowledge base..
and tradition.. i honestly think the ones that require u to have the most degrees, contacts and research work are the hardest.. on top of heavy work load and experiences... time would be a minor factor.. it's trying to get all these things and still be under 35 that would be hard..

these include specialties lik cardiology.. which I hear atm is v. v. hard to get into..

lucky for me.. no intention of doing anything that hard i have friends that are ready for that.

 

[kido_1]

http://theunderweardrawer.homestead.com/twelvemedstudents.html

Check out the "one track mind" and the "gunner"

Thats an awesome serious of comics, KFC for the orthopaedic surgeon and the cardiothoracic guy looks like a nut.

 

[ajx]

Cardoithoracic surgery could take more than 12 years. Wow, for those patient medos that do it, what's in for the. Cash???

 

[un 1]

So it seems UMELB is Australia's most prestigous university to studdy medicine at.

 

[watatank]

i'd choose the most convenient uni.

 

[kcchippy]

i'd choose the most convenient uni.

me too

 

[aussiechica7]

prestige is subjective and mostly irrelevant

 

[kido_1]

UNSW is still a very very respectable university. Does anyone know when UMELB would stop offering undergrad med?

 

[velox]

prestige is subjective and mostly irrelevant

agreed, my sister is 27, and no-one gives a crap who went to which med school. plenty of other stuff to worry about

 

[kido_1]

I just found out this is the last year UMELB will accept undergraduate medical applicants. Year 11 this year have to do science then hope they can get into medicine later on. I read it in the age this saturday and it is being said that UMELB may lose its top prospective med students to monash uni which still offers undergrad med???

 

[liverpool3k]

I just found out this is the last year UMELB will accept undergraduate medical applicants. Year 11 this year have to do science then hope they can get into medicine later on. I read it in the age this saturday and it is being said that UMELB may lose its top prospective med students to monash uni which still offers undergrad med???

That is correct. Hence the 100m going towards bribing kids to stay.

 

[aussiechica7]

www.medstudentsonline.com is a good place 2 look 4 knowledge of how 2 get into med

 

[kido_1]

That is correct. Hence the 100m going towards bribing kids to stay.

'100m going towards bribing kids to stay'
seems like a very wise saying, but i didnt exactly get its meaning.

 

[un 1]

Hey, now that i decided i would like to do med at monash, does anyone here know about the entry requirements in terms of UMAT score and ENTER marks(i know interview counts.)
Say you get 95 and umat 220 raw can you get in?
Does it make a difference, say you get 99.95(not me) can you get in with a 150 umat?
Anyone know the cutoffs?plz

 

[aussiechica7]

Monash: Monash there is no minimum UAI. UMAT PERCENTILES are about 240 for interviews, and much lower scores if on the dean's rural list. No one knows exactly how each section of the process is counted. Used to be 50% interview, and 25% each for UAI and UMAT, but changed for this year so that interview counted for just a little bit less, but they didn't release weightings.

http://www.medstudentsonline.com/forums/how-to-get-into-aus-undergrad-med-schools-topic1806.html

re: 100m... means $100 million worth of scholarships
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21569351-661,00.html
http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/melbourne_model/index.html