Universities should take responsibility for builiding ethical and moral character (1 Viewer)

U

Ubik

Guest
We're failing to nurture wisdom, uni chief asserts

UNIVERSITIES are value-free zones and need to reassert the primary purpose of education, building the ethical and moral character of students, a Sydney vice-chancellor has said.

At an inaugural annual oration last night at Macquarie University, the university's vice-chancellor, Steven Schwartz, said he wanted a return to education's ''ancient roots''.

He said the rector of St Andrews University in 1867, the British philosopher John Stuart Mill, correctly identified the object of universities was "not to make skilful lawyers, or physicians, or engineers, but capable and cultivated human beings''.

To address this educational philosophy, all new Macquarie undergraduates would be required to study arts, humanities and science subjects as well as work in the community.

''Education is, or should be, a moral enterprise,'' Professor Schwartz said before a discussion panel including the author and journalist Jeff McMullen, the Herald columnist Miranda Devine, the historian and former vice-chancellor Emeritus Professor Deryck Schreuder, and the headmaster of The King's School, Dr Tim Hawkes.

''Universities … no longer have a moral role, they have given it up for one that is strictly utilitarian. Moral relativity has rendered universities unable to make judgments; they could not even decide which subjects students should study.

''Today students are allowed to choose from hundreds of options with no subjects considered more important than others. The result is that our universities teach students, but they do not even pretend to make them wise.''

Professor Schwartz said universities had diminished and demeaned their work by construing their purpose ''simply as wealth creation''.

He said suggestions offered in the federal budget papers and by the former Australian chief scientist Robin Batterham in his report The Chance to Change - that universities were dynamos of economic growth, boosting the national standing - were a ''gross'' exaggeration.

Rather, a university education should produce men and women who can understand the world, write and speak coherently, identify a poem or distinguish a symphony from a jingle.

The University of Western Sydney's vice-chancellor, Professor Janice Reid, said the higher purposes espoused for higher education more than a century ago were fashioned by a social elite that was male, white, wealthy and privileged.

''There is no denying a university education enables an individual to live a more fulfilling life,'' she said. ''However, without economic security and social cohesion, the quest for personal fulfilment is illusory.''

Dr Hawkes said the lecture was ''music to his ears'' and that a real moral ambiguity existed in society.

But he believed the implementation of such ideas would be difficult.

''Politics, pragmatism, and pecuniary reality may torpedo us,'' he said.
We're failing to nurture wisdom, uni chief asserts

Sounds like a rubbish university imo. A bachelors degree already consumes a substantial portion of your life, requiring students to undertake an extra 3 years in arts or science, before allowing them to move onto their desired vocational degree, is elitist and a complete waste of time.

Why would you choose to attend a university where you are given less choice?
 

jb_nc

Google "9-11" and "truth"
Joined
Dec 20, 2004
Messages
5,391
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Melbourne did that and now theyre firing academics left right and centre.
 

Iron

Ecclesiastical Die-Hard
Joined
Jul 14, 2004
Messages
7,765
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
Nothing to do with morals or ethics
 

Lentern

Active Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Messages
4,980
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Luckily this is my last semester at MQ then. It's a stupid idea. If I wanted to waste three years of my life, I would have done arts units.
We're all far too zen to get riled over little jibes like that man.
 

Garygaz

Active Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2007
Messages
1,827
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
New admissions into MQ '10 = -40%

Seriously, if I was forced to go and do arts & humanities subjects as a part of my university degree, that university would completely and utterly go down to my last resort. Uni is about getting a piece of paper which proclaims you can now enter the workforce at a decent starter wage and then proceed to unlearn everything you supposedly learnt over the last 3 years.
 

Freedom_

Banned
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
173
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
Whats wrong? Market forces should deal with this 'new program'.
 
Joined
Mar 24, 2009
Messages
688
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
tbh i think you're all proving the point.

you're refusing the idea because you're unethical and have a lack of moral character

explains why yr all capitalist imho
 

Uncle

Banned
Joined
Feb 5, 2009
Messages
3,265
Location
Retirement Village of Alaska
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
Joined
Feb 4, 2009
Messages
181
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
I blame the socialists, commi's, religous groups, and hippies all going around and hassling everyone who show's one sign of weakness when walking past asking money for some stupid cause and then crack the shits when u rip down their posters. Seriously these leeches need to die.
 

Kwayera

Passive-aggressive Mod
Joined
May 10, 2004
Messages
5,959
Location
Antarctica
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
How is taking arts, humanities and science subjects going to build moral character?
 

Uncle

Banned
Joined
Feb 5, 2009
Messages
3,265
Location
Retirement Village of Alaska
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
There are some things a university degree can't give you.
If it cant teach you to wash your dishes or change toilet paper or other basic household maintenance and personal hygiene, etc. explicitly, what hope does it give in building moral character?

But I salute to the doctors, engineers, scientists.
 

tallkid34

In 25 words or less
Joined
Sep 3, 2005
Messages
1,124
Gender
Male
HSC
2006
science is lacking in demand?
are u fucking simple boy?
I only fucking meant courses at Macquarie university.

I'm not sure whether science is lacking in demand or not. Nor do I necessarily care as the thread is concerned with mainly courses and not degrees.
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2009
Messages
181
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
I only fucking meant courses at Macquarie university.

I'm not sure whether science is lacking in demand or not. Nor do I necessarily care as the thread is concerned with mainly courses and not degrees.
i think u mean units not courses.
 

lolokay

Active Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
1,015
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2009
how about teach this stuff in high school so you will already know it for uni?
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top