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**Cherri~BomB** said:
how is the unsw co-op different to uts co-op in terms of selection criteria? i heard that they were more academic based rather than personality?
Thought i made it clear somewhere in the thread, co-op is not really about marks (well for most co-op scholarships, good luck anyone trying for actuarial..>_<). In fact I am pretty sure it likes to advertise itself with the word "leadership" a lot (even getting us to go to a leadership camp in 1st year). And all you need is the minimum UAI (not counting HSC plus i think, but that got introduced later anyway) to get into the 'normal' version of the course for your year.

I swear 17 in 1000 sounds very much wrong, if recall right from my year it was 770 total applications for ALL of co-op scholarships, with people applying for multiple scholarships in the same application.

As for UTS co-op, the UNSW is just better.....=P especially if you are looking at BIT. I'll post a comparison between the 2 co-ops if people want....i might try to be not biased.
 

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misdreavous said:
I swear 17 in 1000 sounds very much wrong, if recall right from my year it was 770 total applications for ALL of co-op scholarships, with people applying for multiple scholarships in the same application.
770 is not alot... there were around that many ppl applyin for bacc.
we had a representative from unsw come to our school n she said that there were a total of 1500~ ppl applyin for all the co-ops at unsw (including multiple scholarships) and a total of around 120 scholarships were given.

misdreavous said:
As for UTS co-op, the UNSW is just better.....=P especially if you are looking at BIT. I'll post a comparison between the 2 co-ops if people want....i might try to be not biased.
lol yes please!!
 
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ShadowSwifter said:
that you mean the sum of UTS and USNW Co-ops or just unsw?
haha edited, just unsw. i mean in business related co-ops alone theres around 70ish?? (accounting, finance, marketing etc...) not to mention IT n engineering n watever
 

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yeah so in each individual department in business, they'd take about roughly 20 i assume, thus confirming what i said before - in accounting there were 1000 applicants last year (1000 probably put accounting as first choice) and 17 got accepted.
 

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**Cherri~BomB** said:
770 is not alot... there were around that many ppl applyin for bacc.
we had a representative from unsw come to our school n she said that there were a total of 1500~ ppl applyin for all the co-ops at unsw (including multiple scholarships) and a total of around 120 scholarships were given.
770 is the total number of interviews given that year i believe, they don't say how many people actually applied, if my post was confusing...well...sorry...=P

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yeah so in each individual department in business, they'd take about roughly 20 i assume, thus confirming what i said before - in accounting there were 1000 applicants last year (1000 probably put accounting as first choice) and 17 got accepted.
I still think 1000 sounds like too many, also sounds too 'look 1k is a nice big number', but meh....you can ask some accounting co-op, they'd probably know better.
They do not take 20 in each school. Here's a list of scholarships for co-op 07
Accounting 12
Actuarial 16
Finance 6
Marketing 5
BIT 19
ISM 4
Numbers change from year to year as it depends on sponsors, but additional sponsors may sign up during the year.

I have the engineering & science numbers too, but since this is the commerce forums...i'll only put it up if people want to know.


UTS co-op

Duration: 3 years

Money: 13k/year (last time i checked), you get paid more in later years than the earlier years but the average is 13k/year

Content: Accounting - good luck anyone who does it, accounting is the boring-est subject as UNSW and i don't think it will be any different at UTS
Bachelor of Information Technology (BIT) - this course supposedly doesn't have as much maths as the unsw variant and tend to focus more on business side of things

Industrial Training: 2 periods of 6 months, 2nd semester of 1st year and 1st semester of 3rd year (could be 2nd year....), this is for BIT but i think it applies for accounting too



UNSW co-op

Duration: 4years, including honours (this means you get paid an extra year, spend an extra year bludging in uni, get to do a thesis)

Money: 15k/year, paid fortnightly

Content: Accounting - main point i have to say here is that you can double major with the commerce co-ops and most people taking the accounting don't actually want to do accounting and co-major in finance, as to my view of accounting in general....see above...=P
Business Information Technology (BIT) - this course has a solid first year program, doing ACCT, INFS, COMP and MATH (basically half science, half commerce). After that you do mainly information systems with a few electives so you can go either technical side or business side.

Industrial Training: Varies within the degrees, usually 3 periods of 6months - 1st semester 2nd year, 2nd semester 3rd year, 1st semester 4th year


I think the main decision is UTS has a shorter degree meaning you'd come out faster, work an extra year before the UNSW people start working. But work is not as fun as uni, and because UNSW gets an additional period of industrial training experience and get paid during the 'extra' year + get honours, I think UNSW is better in that regard. Did i mention you get paid more?...=P
 
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misdreavous said:
They do not take 20 in each school. Here's a list of scholarships for co-op 07
Accounting 12
Actuarial 16
Finance 6
Marketing 5
BIT 19
ISM 4
Numbers change from year to year as it depends on sponsors, but additional sponsors may sign up during the year.

I have the engineering & science numbers too, but since this is the commerce forums...i'll only put it up if people want to know.
Out of those, the course with the highest chance to get in seems to be BIT.

Can I get the numbers for engineering and science?
 

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Black Hawker said:
Out of those, the course with the highest chance to get in seems to be BIT.

Can I get the numbers for engineering and science?
Why? BIT might have the most number of apllicants, does it not?

By the way, I am interested in the numbers of engineering and science too, thanks!
 

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lyounamu said:
Why? BIT might have the most number of apllicants, does it not?

By the way, I am interested in the numbers of engineering and science too, thanks!
Really? I thought actuarial/accounting/finance would have the most...
 

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Black Hawker said:
Out of those, the course with the highest chance to get in seems to be BIT.

Can I get the numbers for engineering and science?
Computer Science 3
Chemical Engineering 4
Electrical Engineering & Telecommunications 2
Industrial Chemistry 4
Materials Science & Engineering 5
Mechanical Engineering 5
Mining Engineering 7
Petroleum Engineering 1
Photovoltaics & Solar Energy 3
Surveying & Spatial Information Systems 2

BTW if anyone's interested to know a bit more about BIT feel free to ask me.

Edit: You guys are so lucky, no-one told me the numbers when I applied...T_T
 

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misdreavous said:
Computer Science 3
Chemical Engineering 4
Electrical Engineering & Telecommunications 2
Industrial Chemistry 4
Materials Science & Engineering 5
Mechanical Engineering 5
Mining Engineering 7
Petroleum Engineering 1
Photovoltaics & Solar Energy 3
Surveying & Spatial Information Systems 2

BTW if anyone's interested to know a bit more about BIT feel free to ask me.

Edit: You guys are so lucky, no-one told me the numbers when I applied...T_T
Damn, those are really small numbers. Pretty competitive. :(

Umm, I wouldn't mind a little more about BIT.
 

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Black Hawker said:
Damn, those are really small numbers. Pretty competitive. :(

Umm, I wouldn't mind a little more about BIT.
Might start a new thread about BIT....if there's enough interest....=P
 

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Black Hawker said:
I reckon keep it to this thread.

The less people see it, the more chance I have. LOL. :D

Na, it's up to you.
Well, as long as you are an awesome applicant, the number shouldn't matter, I reckon.

By the way, I have seen someone who got 96 UAI getting accepted into Actuarial Co-op Program. I guess the part that UAI plays it not the most significant one.
 

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^ if they have a strong maths background, then its fine i guess
 

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leoyh said:
^ if they have a strong maths background, then its fine i guess
yeah apparently actuarial cares about the maths marks a lot because a lot of people fail 2nd year actuarial and they don't want co-ops to fail...=P
 

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hahaha even in the normal acturial course, heapssss of ppl end up dropping out cause the maths is just too crazy. they do acturial in their first year only lol, if it even lasts to the end of the year
 
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hahaha even in the normal acturial course, heapssss of ppl end up dropping out cause the maths is just too crazy. they do acturial in their first year only lol, if it even lasts to the end of the year
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1/3 drop out apparently. Not a good news.

So how many do you reckon apply for actuarial co-op program in general? (500? 1000?)
 

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1/3 drop out apparently. Not a good news.

So how many do you reckon apply for actuarial co-op program in general? (500? 1000?)
just count the number of students in nsw who do 4u maths and do a commerce elective :rofl:
 

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