Usyd is the worst uni of them all. (3 Viewers)

[LeftrightOut]

The technical skills shortage is not just due to a missing number of colleges, many people just don't think trades are a worthwhile pursuit.

If you go out to rural areas you will find many locations where employers are seeking apprentices and trainees and the teaching skill is there but they just don't have the number of motivated and interested people to take up the positions. We recently had a trades career expo in town and the turn out from industry and VET sectors was great, but we had hardly any interested students and parents come along.

 

[Lexicographer]

Tafe is good for sure, and it should be done.. however there is a lack of skills in rural australia.

John Howard addressed that it's wrong that all students think they have to go to university to be successful, i found that labor seemed to be jumping on the idea that we should make university accessable for everyone... i'm not in university but i'm sure it's not the kinda thing that's for everyone.

Trust me, it isn't.

I started the year with a dodgy UAI in a course that's known as "edge of the ramp" - ie mine was one of the courses pick when they just crape enough marks for uni (no not me I cleared the cutoff by 5).

Most of the people in my cohort have now either got better marks and transferred, got shifty marks and dropped out, or hung on with passes and are still trying to figure out what they REALLY want.

 

[~Dreamer]

if my course was offerred at Maquarie or UWS i would go there... as long as the course was recognised by the AVA. For me, I didnt get to choose the uni, i just chose the course, and i would gladly trade my 3 hours travel a day for a uni closer to home, even if it was "less prestigious".

But... i wouldn't risk my education by doing a degree at a uni that has not set up its course properly yet and has no way of showing what skills it graduates graduate with... like CSU. But, if it was 10 years down the track, and the uni had proven that it can provide quality graduates to the workforce, then i would consider it along with all the others that offerred my course.

how is the uni supposed to show the qualit yof its graduates it there is no people willing to take the rest to do it and portray its quality?! and if you're reffering to csu offering vet science from next year, they have set up their course properly, and is in the process of recieving recognition. full membership is not give till the first couple of batch of students come out.

 

[Phanatical]

I'm a USYD student and I'm just as willing to criticise USYD as any other uni.

Traitor.

USYD has its faults. Sure it's a helluva lot better than pretty much any other university in the country, but it has its faults - the worst being the fucking SRC. Gods, they annoy me. I'm all for decent representation, but our representatives are all fucked in the head. In fact, I'm willing to say that the people who the students voted for are the ones who were eliminated in the counting. Not many other universities have to deal with the same shit as what our SRC and our Union create for us.

But yeah, I'll criticise anything and everything I see. That's why I ran for SRC President. And almost got it too, despite my $50 budget.

 

[Generator]

Haha I'm all for airing dirty laundry for all to see, it's just that I didn't want to add fuel to the fire... It's just funny that the faults of the USyd snobs are open to debate yet it seems as though we cannot pass judgement on those attending another institution (in this case UWS). In most cases those being critical (from all sides) tend to make valid points.

 

[Phanatical]

I'm just pissed off that Rose/Action/[V]ibe won the election. Fuckers, they are. The USYD SRC controls a multi-million dollar budget, and what doesn't pay their salaries pays for their campaigns to become future Members of Parliament. It scares me to think that Felix Eldridge or Rose Jackson (who are fuckers, by the way) could be our future Prime Minister.

Paddy Gibson and his posse of dirty hippies are just as bad. There is nothing wrong with being left-wing. But being left-wing doesn't mean you don't wear clean clothing and present yourself well (or cut your hair! now that I think about it, they were ALL long haired!).*

I resent the fact that My student fees pay Rose Jackson's salary. She gets paid to improve services for women on campus, at the expense of male students, and now she will speak (stupidly) on the behalf of the 32000 undergraduates at the many campuses of the University of Sydney.

*Edit: there Were short-haired candidates for Keep Left. All female.

 

[Mambomeg]

how is the uni supposed to show the qualit yof its graduates it there is no people willing to take the rest to do it and portray its quality?! and if you're reffering to csu offering vet science from next year, they have set up their course properly, and is in the process of recieving recognition. full membership is not give till the first couple of batch of students come out.

I agree, i am just saying that i wouldnt want to be in that first bunch of students, because it is going to be hard for them to be the first ones through, and the first ones trying to get jobs in a workforce that is run by people who came from the "traditional" vet faculties. There will be resistance, and i would not like to be the one involved, because it will be hard, and people wont understand at first what skills they have because their degree will not say "bachelor of vet science" like all the others do.
I agree, its a tough time for the uni's, getting themselves established, but its not like there is a lack of interest from students....

 

[mr EaZy]

Forget about how 'prestigious' it is. Look at it, it is the ugliest uni there is, it's in need of some major renovation. At the moment I'm not sure if it looks more like a large church or like hogwarts.

And how come they are the only uni from which i hear students bagging out other uni's? Point me to where someone from unsw, anu, csu, uow, etc has started insulting usyd, it's pathetic - do you guys have lectures about how superior a human you are now that you go to usyd?

comments, thoughts?

i dont know wat this thread is about but i hate uni syd. ABSOLUTELY hate it

all they talk about is how good they are, and nothing else

 

[mr EaZy]

its a very snobby uni

 

[Generator]

Name a uni that does not actively promote itself.

 

[neo o]

it looks more like a large church or like hogwarts.

OMFG HOGWARTS! Who wouldn't want to go to Hogwarts?

 

[bex]

Its got nothing to do with the fact that its out west. It could be anywhere and it would still be equally shit. Just like Victoria University, it may have campuses out west in Melbourne but it also has city campuses. It does not change the fact it is a shit university. Geographical considerations do not determine how good the university is, and stop pretending otherwise.

i havent read the entire post so this has probably already been said, but if usyd was the best uni, why was ANU the highest rating australian uni on the worlds best universites list?

its common knowledge that the people of sydney uni can be snobs and all the rest of it but you get those people at any uni. the fact is that every uni has its ups and downs and the sooner those ignorant people work it out the better. In the mean time.. i know im getting a great education at my uni (csu) and am part of a course that is the only one of its kind in australia. we have a 100% employment rate in the first year out of uni and thats good enough for me!

 

[shannonm]

factors that anu are primarily good at (research, etc) were the main critera that magazine (or whatever the fuck ranked the unis) used to form that list.
its stupid to say anu is better than whatever uni because it ranked higher in some random gay survey of unis.
random gay ranking list = bullshit

 

[bex]

whichever way you look at it, ANU still beat sydney.. proving the point that there are other respectable universities out there

 

[ziggyboy]

Who does and who doesn't go to uni is primarily based on ability, and the bulk of those that don't get in simply aren't suitable.

Sadly, a number of people who do get in are also not suitable.

I do not believe this is entirely true. Uni is for people who are willing to WORK and has demonstrated some form of ability. In this world, it's diligence that makes things happen.

 

[Minai]

I'm just pissed off that Rose/Action/[V]ibe won the election. Fuckers, they are. The USYD SRC controls a multi-million dollar budget, and what doesn't pay their salaries pays for their campaigns to become future Members of Parliament. It scares me to think that Felix Eldridge or Rose Jackson (who are fuckers, by the way) could be our future Prime Minister.

Paddy Gibson and his posse of dirty hippies are just as bad. There is nothing wrong with being left-wing. But being left-wing doesn't mean you don't wear clean clothing and present yourself well (or cut your hair! now that I think about it, they were ALL long haired!).*

I resent the fact that My student fees pay Rose Jackson's salary. She gets paid to improve services for women on campus, at the expense of male students, and now she will speak (stupidly) on the behalf of the 32000 undergraduates at the many campuses of the University of Sydney.

*Edit: there Were short-haired candidates for Keep Left. All female.

I cannot wait until July, when the government enacts VSU - it'll teach all those brainless student politicans a lesson. At UNSW, the Guild officers (USyd's SRC equivalent) have wasted students compulsory fees on their on personal legal action and other such misuse of funds. They use our money to help them campaign against the government and things they don't like. As one student said in the uni newspaper, "We have to pay to fund their campaigns even if we are totally against their ideals"

The incoming UNSW Guild President intends to protest VSU with such measures as shutdowns of union outlets (which we pay for anyway), and student lockouts. They have the nerve to use our money to help deny us access to our education.

These student politicians are kidding themselves, they say that with VSU, all student benefits will disappear - well hello, if students saw the services provided as benefits, they'd be more than happy to voluntarily contribute - but research shows that the overwhelming majority of students (70%) think the cost far outweighs the benefits and would not pay the fees if voluntary

Compulsory student unionism is illegal and violates Article 20 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights ("no one shall be compelled to belong to an organisation"). It's funny how student unions fight against the reform of HECS, and the benefits of deferring payments, calling for decreased fees, when they themselves demand upfront payment of union fees, which increases every year.

 

[Generator]

I do not believe this is entirely true. Uni is for people who are willing to WORK and has demonstrated some form of ability. In this world, it's diligence that makes things happen.

That's his point. Universities are no longer what they once were... Now many go to uni for a vocationalised degree rather than a learning experience (followed by a career, of course). But the world is forever in flux so change is to be expected. Still, from what I have been told the system that existed back in the late 70s (Universities, Colleges of Advanced Education, technical colleges (tafe), and so on) worked much better than today's university or bust situation.

 

[Phanatical]

I don't support VSU. Clubs and Societies like the Sydney Eclectic Composers Society would lose its funding, and there would be less culture on campus. What I DO believe is that our elected representatives are shit, and that we should have elected the candidates who will represent us All, whether we're male, female, transgendered, non-gendered, black, white, pink, purple, green, blue, communist, socialist, feudalist, capitalist, anarchist, masochist or whatever.

The best candidate for SRC President was Andrew Quah (Me!). And it's your (the student body) fault that we're now stuck with that bitch.

 

[Generator]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11370602%5E2702,00.html

Just an article on the financial side of student unionism.

 

[Kittycat]

... She gets paid to improve services for women on campus, at the expense of male students...

Well, people are paid to improve services for students but that doesn't mean everybody will benefits from each & every service. I am sure that she is not JUST improving services for women. She is (or should be) providing services for other students as well (like for both men & women)
Besides, men still gets more pay in the workplace than women (generally) so stop complaining (ammm...I am saying this in a nice way...really I am, so please don't kick me).