What is the new 2024 curriculum (3 Viewers)

[specificagent1]

perhaps do u go mac fields??

nupppp good try DD

 

[Life'sHard]

math syllabus is aligned with uni math for courses like engineering and comp sci and stuff. Aint no body need circle geo in comp sci or something like that

You can find some circle geo properties in current 4u. Conics got removed from 4u and I think it’s pretty necessary for engineering courses.

 

[kkk579]

nupppp good try DD

full or partial selective

 

[specificagent1]

You can find some circle geo properties in current 4u. Conics got removed from 4u and I think it’s pretty necessary for engineering courses.

yep but engineering isnt the only thing they are considering. And also consider that less people do extension maths then just normal 2u. so understand what they were thinkinng

 

[Life'sHard]

yep but engineering isnt the only thing they are considering. And also consider that less people do extension maths then just normal 2u. so understand what they were thinkinng

True but the issue lies with them changing it again now…

 

[specificagent1]

full or partial selective

not even selective

 

[specificagent1]

True but the issue lies with them changing it again now…

yea no clue why they're changing it again

 

[kkk579]

not even selective

oh lol

 

[Gryffindor]

Also psychology has an issue because who can teach it? it's like engineering studies... no engineer would teach it. no psychologist would teach this because they can work in industry and get paid 6 figures

Engineering studies is already a HSC subject and in Victoria, they offer psychology as a year 11 and 12 subject, and so I'm sure there's qualified teachers available to teach the subjects.

 

[specificagent1]

Engineering studies is already a HSC subject and in Victoria, they offer psychology as a year 11 and 12 subject, and so I'm sure there's qualified teachers available to teach the subjects.

engineering studies follows two cases:

- school doesnt run it
- or taught poorly

 

[Gryffindor]

engineering studies follows two cases:

- school doesnt run it
- or taught poorly

True, I guess it depends on the school. I know several teachers at my school that would be great at teaching engineering studies if it were offered as an elective. Same goes for psychology, I would pick it up in a heartbeat if it were offered in senior years like Victoria.

 

[dasfas]

The new math syllabuses are more reflective of university maths. stuff like circle geo was incredibly outdated and obscure

That is not necessarily better - circle geo was unique and probably the only exposure people would get to for a long while

 

[specificagent1]

That is not necessarily better - circle geo was unique and probably the only exposure people would get to for a long while

you just proved that it is obsolete and hence not needed. NESA didnt want to be teaching just for the sake of teaching

 

[dasfas]

you just proved that it is obsolete and hence not needed. NESA didnt want to be teaching just for the sake of teaching

Obsolete according to who? Just because it is taught/isn't taught at uni does not mean it is inherently better or more valuable.

 

[specificagent1]

Obsolete according to who? Just because it is taught/isn't taught at uni does not mean it is inherently better or more valuable.

well according to your logic, we should teach everything because they all have their unique value

 

[dasfas]

well according to your logic, we should teach everything because they all have their unique value

Absolutely. Obviously there isn't time for everything, but circle geo was an introduction at an area of maths that isn't covered at uni, yet was valuable in its own right because of the new insights and skills it was able to teach. It's a shame that the syllabus has moved to something that is basically watered down first year - ultimately you are better prepared for uni, sure, but you lose out on overall mathematical development imo.

 

[specificagent1]

Absolutely. Obviously there isn't time for everything, but circle geo was an introduction at an area of maths that isn't covered at uni, yet was valuable in its own right because of the new insights and skills it was able to teach. It's a shame that the syllabus has moved to something that is basically watered down first year - ultimately you are better prepared for uni, sure, but you lose out on overall mathematical development imo.

is the point of school not to prepare you for uni? assuming you are pursuing the hsc

 

[dasfas]

is the point of school not to prepare you for uni? assuming you are pursuing the hsc

Absolutely not.

The HSC skews your perception of education as the entire year becomes focused around a single number. But school is so much more than that: it is about character development, becoming more mature, developing leadership qualities etc..

With regards to academics, school is also more than just marks. There's a reason why the system of a liberal arts education is still championed. Learning does not have to be a means to a specific ends - learning for the sake of learning is still valuable. The world would be rather dull if school and uni was solely to prepare you for work, rather than for nurturing and developing the mind.

Granted I did go to a school that prides itself on its liberal education, so I am definitely biased, but I think this is an important way learn to to view education.

Ultimately, as with most things in life, a balance of both learning for learnings sake, and learning for future job skills, is important.

 

[ExtremelyBoredUser]

Really good view.

 

[Trebla]

There's got to be a good reason why it didn't change for 20 years prior am I right? The old syllabus was tougher and personally I think the topics flowed pretty nicely with each other.

There has been an urge to change it for a while. There was an initial attempt to change the Maths syllabus back in 2014-2015, well before this one came into effect. You can see what they had proposed back then (Maths Ext2 in particular was originally intended to be far more jam-packed in content):

https://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/australian-curriculum/pdf_doc/maths-ext-st6-draft-writing-brief-2015.pdf

There are also some old threads on this:

Proposed actions for the new senior curriculum in mathematics

Following consultation last year, BOSTES have now released a consultation report on the proposed actions based on that consultation. Here are the proposed actions: - the level of content will be closely monitored, with Mathematics General 2 and (‘2 Unit’) having a net reduction in content -...

www.boredofstudies.org

Announcement from BOSTES/NESA - 2019 Syllabus Changes for Calculus courses

There will be an announcement from BOSTES next Wednesday at the MANSW conference involving a significant change to the calculus courses. There is no official word yet about what this might be. But there is a rumour going around that it will be a formula sheet in HSC exams for ALL the...

www.boredofstudies.org

It took a lot of consultation to land at this syllabus today. You also have to remember that this change in the Maths syllabus is actually part of a broader syllabus change across other subjects including English, Science and History.

Personally, I think it is much better (of course there is room for improvement, particularly in terms of how it is written) because of the emphasis on applied maths. The introduction of vectors and stats in particular adds a lot of value in preparing you for uni. Obviously, those who prefer pure maths would hate it because this came at the expense of removing some pure maths topics such as geometry and conics.

As for the sciences, I would also agree with many others that the current syllabus is far better than it was before. A huge complaint that has been bubbling ever since the beginning was that there was too much emphasis on society/history at the expense of deeper theoretical knowledge. This has often meant that students can be good at the subject without really understanding the concepts, and then get a rude shock when they touch the real science at uni. This feedback never really had a chance to be heard until there was a broader syllabus reform.

The HSC skews your perception of education as the entire year becomes focused around a single number. But school is so much more than that: it is about character development, becoming more mature, developing leadership qualities etc..

With regards to academics, school is also more than just marks. There's a reason why the system of a liberal arts education is still championed. Learning does not have to be a means to a specific ends - learning for the sake of learning is still valuable. The world would be rather dull if school and uni was solely to prepare you for work, rather than for nurturing and developing the mind.

Granted I did go to a school that prides itself on its liberal education, so I am definitely biased, but I think this is an important way learn to to view education.

Ultimately, as with most things in life, a balance of both learning for learnings sake, and learning for future job skills, is important.

This is why Maths Ext2 exists. It is supposed to cater for those with an academic interest in Maths, whereas the lower level courses lean more heavily towards application.