Where to find the scaling of HSC subjects? (1 Viewer)

[MzRobinHood97]

I just need to find the scaling... does anyone know where i can find the scalings of:
>Advanced English
>Extension English
>2 Unit Mathematics
>Chemistry
>Geography
>Legal Studies
>1 Unit Religion

 

[laura-jayne14]

Search google or threads on this forum

 

[moni5281]

Check this out: http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2013-tables/2013_HSC_TableA3.pdf

how are you supposed to interpret this table?

 

[moni5281]

If you look at the mean vertically and the scaled horizontally you'll find how well the subjects scale. The higher the number the better.

aah thanks, was actually thinking this but don't understand the other thing you said: scaled horizontally?

 

[D94]

The scaling data is almost completely useless for the great majority of students, so this begs the question of what use are the scaling tables to you?

Scaling is carried out afresh each year, so even if you had the 2013 tables, it would be useless for your HSC year.

 

[moni5281]

Sorry, haha. Should've made myself clearer. What I meant was there is a block called type of mark. In that block there's HSC and scaled. Look at the scaled and you'll see the numbers that determine how well that subject scales.

oh i get it now, thanks xD

 

[braintic]

The scaling data is almost completely useless for the great majority of students, so this begs the question of what use are the scaling tables to you?

Scaling is carried out afresh each year, so even if you had the 2013 tables, it would be useless for your HSC year.

I don't think 'useless' is the right word in either case.

In your first use of the word I think a better word would be 'indecipherable'. (At least I thinks that's what you meant.)

In your second use of the word, I have to strongly disagree. They are not entirely accurate in predicting scaling in subsequent years, but they are a very good guide, and on a scale of 1 to 5 where 1 is 'useless' they are probably worth a 4.5 in subjects with large cohorts.

 

[D94]

I don't think 'useless' is the right word in either case.

In your first use of the word I think a better word would be 'indecipherable'. (At least I thinks that's what you meant.)

In your second use of the word, I have to strongly disagree. They are not entirely accurate in predicting scaling in subsequent years, but they are a very good guide, and on a scale of 1 to 5 where 1 is 'useless' they are probably worth a 4.5 in subjects with large cohorts.

Not that it really matters, but I'll explain:

In my first use of the word: even if I gave you the exact scaling conversions for 2013, what would you do with that data? How does that really affect your HSC subjects?

In my second use of the word: without knowing the intentions of the OP, the data should be assumed unless the answer to my first question deems it otherwise. Whether they are a good guide or not is subjective. Maybe the OP wanted to know a general idea on the scaling, or maybe the OP wanted to know what a certain mark will scale to for 2014 for which we cannot possibly know.

 

[obliviousninja]

well shit just got real.

 

[Cleavage]

http://www.matrix.edu.au/scaling-of-hsc-marks-part-2/

You can use the link above to rank the scalings of your respective subjects, but it compares scaled mark to percentile in the whole NSW cohort of the subject. This is from 2010, but you can still use it to approximate the scaling of your subjects. From best to worst scaling (i.e. raw mark to hsc mark), i think it looks something like:

1. Chem
2. 2U
3. EX1
4. Adv. English
5. Legal
6. Geo

I dunno about SOR, I go to a public school.

 

[D94]

SOR can be done in a public school...

 

[iloveschool1996]

hawkrider sry but what does SD mean and does max mark mean the highest possible mark? and what are percentiles again i forgot thanks man\

 

[Cleavage]

SOR can be done in a public school...

:/ That shows how little i know about the subject lol

 

[Futuremedstudent]

hawkrider sry but what does SD mean and does max mark mean the highest possible mark? and what are percentiles again i forgot thanks man\

SD- standard deviation

Max mark- highest possible mark

Percentiles- Rank against other students doing the same subject e.g if ur 99 percentile ur in the top 1%