i reckon the magnets and number of coils would have been enough, i made a crappy little motor with like 10 turns copper and a magnet i found lying around my house and it worked fine. i just put no power source, coils not joined to commutator and coils wound around wrong axis so the forces on different sides would cancel each other outchriscity1 said:hey maybe your right buddy. No arguments from me. I also said that the magnets would produce too weak a field for the number of turns (only 50) - needs to be more like 500 I thought.