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iight so this is my final draft for workout plan

monday - day one. tuesday - day two. wed - break. thurs - day one. fri - day two. sat sun- break

day one

bicept alternate curls
wrist/forearm curls
chinups palms facing towards
bent over rows
shrugs
chinups palms facing away

day two

chest bench press
dumbell flyes
diamond pushups
tricept press
shoulder press
ab workout

i will slowly implement deadlift and calf raise. Any suggestions?

and i have some questions
1. What excercises can i cancell? i was thinkin chinups palms away.
2. How often should i have protein shakes?
3. How often should i eat?
4. When should i train?
5. What should i eat?

cheers thanks heaps, most of this has been put together with the help of you guys so yeh.
 

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You have 12 upper body exercises.

And 0 lower body exercises.

Imbalanced?

1. "What excercises can i cancell? i was thinkin chinups palms away."
- Chin ups palms away are better. Harder. But better. Thumbless to if you can manage it.
- You really dont have to go over board with many, many exercises for the 1 muscle group.
- Which ones do you like? if i was given a choice, compounds are always better.

2. How often should i have protein shakes?
- Food is better and protein shakes. Try to keep them (with high carbs) for after workouts.
- Look. Diet is alway about 'making it work'. If you need a shake to replace a meal, fine. Good is not as good as best, but it is better than nothing.

3. How often should i eat?
- Eat whatever is comfortable for you. Though, if you want to gain, it is easier to have many meals, than 3-4 huge meals. How often do you want to eat?
- You don't NEED to eat 6-7 times a day. Yes, it has benefits, but some people just can not manage it. Don't sweat it.

4. When should i train?
- Again, when is best for you?
- Though, i would recommend a minimum of at least 1.5 hours from waking. When you just wake in the morning, your spine is 'overhydrated' (due to no pressure while sleeping), and doesn't take compressive force to well. Give it s couple of hours, and gravity will do it's part.
- if it just walking, simple cardio, etc, the above rule doesn't really apply. It is for load-bearing stuff.

5. What should i eat?
- World's greatest meal = Meat and veg.
- The more colours on your plate, the better. Don't load up to much on the potato, unless you are post a very hard work out.
- Avoid fried foods.
- Milk is iffy. Some people can chug the stuff, others' bodies don't handle milk favourably (h'm NOT talking about lactose intolerance, some people just feel 'bloated' on dairy).
- Fat is better than sugar. Humans are designed to eat fat from meats, and oils. Fried fats are bad though (duh). Sugar is just bad mojo all the time (expect post-workout).
 

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NinjaSauce said:
- Milk is iffy. Some people can chug the stuff, others' bodies don't handle milk favourably (h'm NOT talking about lactose intolerance, some people just feel 'bloated' on dairy).
3L a day on a bulk :]
 

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thanks heaps for the input ninja, i have two bball trainings a week which kills my life with lower and cardio and i was going to start implement deadlifts and calfs soon.

what excercises do you rekon i can cancell then?

i was thinking that i could cancell the chinups palm towards then because the other type of chinup compounds bicepts too...

my body structure is naturally thin, not like stick but high metabolism so i was thinkin 6 meals a day so i will always be stocked up. i try and keep it high carbs becuase i need to put on weight.

one last thing lol. i am 17 so im trying to keep it 3 x 10-12reps so its not that heavy weighting, i will still get muscle growth sufficient ffrom that then wont i?

thanks again in advance
 

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You don't have to be scared of carbs - i wasn't trying to imply that. High carbs is fine; you just have to find what works for YOU. Some people look at a piece of bread and gain weight, others can eat a bakery and have abs on their abs. :p

Would i be right in guessing your basketball training is Wednesday, and Saturday?

If it is, i can cough up a 4 day plan on the days you have given me (Mon, Tue, Thur, Fri - 4 days a week is a good number. It gives a solid amount of working days, with a solid amount of rest).

The rep scheme for a beginner is not bad at 10-12 reps. But how this for a fun concept: "You don't have to have the same rep scheme for everything". Your 'big lifts' can have lower reps (and thus heavier, and i wouldn't recommend looooow reps like 1-3, you need a little 'base' for this. Maybe a year or 2.). So your squat, deadlift, and press (bench or overhead) can be in the 4-6 range, while all you others can be 8-12. You get the best of both worlds!

so...

Wednesday, and Saturday are Basket Ball? I can make a solid guide (Not program, i haven't met you!) for you.
 

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yeh i am smashing the carbs atm with a slow success.

bball is mon and thurs lol so it throws me off a bit but its good because its straight after the breaks so i am pumped for them.

thanks for you info on the rep scheme i never picked it like that but i can defenatly see the benefit in it. Atm i have been going for bout 3 weeks on that plan so i have a bit of a base. below is a final draft two lol.

Day one and three

Squats
calf raise
bent over barbell row
dumbell alternate curl
barbell shrugs
i am contemplating adding wrist/forearm curls

day two and four

bench press (& and possible incline if i can figure out my bench)
dumbell flys
tricept press
should press
and i have to add some abb excercises not many though

i have changed it to suit more compound excercises. should i put deadlift in with squats? i am pretty sure they work the same so i dont htink so?

id love your help with working out the proper plan. im in year 12 so it cant be too time consuming. just 20-40min sessions.

also wiht doing squats is it safe to cancell the calf raise. just because i run heaps already.

thanks again ninja
 

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Oh, i never saw you were doing HSC this year! Thought you were a uni student.

The basketball schedule is fine, what was going to suggest was something like...

GOOGLE or YOUTUBE anything you don't know. And better yet, ask the big dude in your gym, or any trainers for advice.

MON :
Squats. 4-6 reps, 4-6 sets. if it gets easy, add 2.5 kgs. Or start medium weight on first set, and move up each set. Simply, progress is progress, you know when you are getting better. Full squats are best, but don't 'bounce', or pause on the bottom. Steady wins the race.
Hamstrings; now, my favourite exercise is 'Good Mornings', but you have to be very careful with these if your new (or even experienced!). SO WAIT a good 3-4 months after you have built some comfort in squats first. Try 'glute-ham raises', you complete these by hooking your feet under something and 'falling' to the ground with your body straight, catching yourself, and coming up straight again. You'll know when you get this right, the back of your legs will feel like footballs.
Biceps: Yep, feel free to hit your guns at this time. I'm sure you know all the variations. Limit yourself to two exercises though. You don't need a million; don't think about pump, think about a intense contraction. (mind-muscle connection).

TUE:
Bench: 4-8 reps, 4-6 sets. Do these properly, touch your body with the bar, and press to lockout. Get a spotter.
Heavy Triceps: bench lockouts are the money ticket here. Bench lockouts are done in a squat rack or cage, and you set the pins higher than your body, and bench from there. Basically a 'short-range bench press'. You will be able to you a lot more weight. This is an exercise where i actually encourage singles reps. But you can do them as sets. For example, you may 'do 5 reps', but you press the weight, hold, lower, let go of bar, shake for a second, and re-grip and go again.
You won't need a spotter. Really experiment with this, you'll press A LOT more than your typical bench (i've played with 160-180kg on a few inch lockout, and i am a sucky bencher).
Another option is 'close-grip bench press'. You hands are close in on the bar (about 1 cm from inside knurling), and you'll press less, but more emphasis on triceps.
Pick 1 or 2 and work it!
Chest: Incline bench with dumbbells. Try and get a good (but be careful!) stretch at bottom of press, elbows wide to concentrate on chest. Dumbbell will also force you to use less weight than your bench (and your triceps are gone anyways). This is a GOOD thing. 6-8 reps are good. Squeeze your pecs at the top.
Push ups. Very simple, but they work. These are your finisher. Do an All out set of push ups. Rest for 1-2 minutes, and another all out set.
DONE.

WED: rest.

THUR:
Deadlifts: 4-6 reps, 4-6 sets. Read up on these, and know your form. Ask the best dude in the gym to check your form. Now, a little tip for deads, treat every rep as a single. E.g: If doing a set of 4, deadlift once, put down the bar, let go, stand up, and come down for your second rep. You'll keep good form this way.
Hang from a bar for a little bit when done. Good for your back (you just compressed it with deadlifts).
Back:
Dumbbell rows: I prefer these to barbell, as they don't fatigue the lower-back as much. Dumbbell in hand, another on a bench (with matching knee), and row, row, row to the bottom of your rib cage. 8+ reps, sets, your call.
One good scheme for this is to grab a dumbbell, and work with that until you can get 15 reps in a single set. Once you can get 15, time to move up a dumbbell, and work with that for a while until you can get 15, etc. Do not use straps, you'll build great grip with this high rep range. :) Your biceps also get a small second pump, which will aid recovery.


FRI:
Over head press:
6-8 reps, start a little light on this until you get a solid lower back. Take it from a rack, do not 'clean' it from the floor. Form tip: Keep knees and butt tight. Its a safety issue, but will also make you stronger.
Light triceps:
Cable press-down thingies: 8+ reps. Go to town. This is light and pumpy. Move up when you want.
'Skull crushers': 8+ reps. If your elbows don't scream. If they do, find something else.
shoulders:
Now... My genes give me decent shoulders, so i don't know this to much. But the best builder i know is volume clean and press with a dumbbell. Put a Dbell on the floor, in a swift motion take it to your shoulder, get tight, press, then put Dbell back on floor - Repeat! 6-8 reps.

SAT/SUN: rest!

Special everyday thing:
Pull ups.
Get your max (lets say, 10) and take 2/3's of it (6). Do 4-5 sets of 6 over the course of your workout. Anytime you want to do a set. Maybe 1 in between an exercise. One or two near the beginning and a couple at the end, whatever. Pull ups are good, and make a man of you. You probably wont get tired with this approach of spreading them out - But this is a GOOD THING. You'll get good at them.


... Now... I just have a mental collapse and realized your Basketball days match the leg days. You could give it a shot, but switch the days around so it is bench, squat, rest, overhead, dead, rest, rest. - Should work!

I'm going to use a program similar to this when i get back to Uni.

What do you think? It is brutal minimalism, but if you work each exercise well, you;ll make good progress.
 
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thanks hepas dude dont know if ill use it all but deffinatly using heaps of that.

yeh i guess ill just have to suck it in with bball but i cant wait to give the squats a go.

ill let u know in time how its all happening thanks for ur advice
 

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