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Can anyone solve the following question? I've been stuck on it for ages...

Find the values of a and b if the parabola a(x+b)^2 - 8 is tangential with y = 2x at (4,8).
 

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For f(x) = a*(x + b)^2 - 8 to have a tangent y = 2x at (4,8) two conditions have to be met:
1. f(4) = 8 [the parabola passes through (4,8)]
2. f'(4) = 2 [the tangent of the parabola at (4,8) is 2]

To satisfy condition 1,
a*(4 + b)^2 - 8 = 8
a*(4 + b)^2 = 16 -- eq.1

To satisfy condition 2,
Expanding,
f(x) = a*(x^2 + 2bx + b^2) - 8
= ax^2 + 2abx + ab^2 - 8
f'(x) = 2ax + 2ab

2a(4) + 2ab = 2
a(4 + b) = 1
a = 1/(4 + b) -- eq.2

Substituting this value for a into eq.1 gives:
[(4 + b)^2]/(4 + b) = 16
4 + b = 16
b = 12

Substituting this value for b into eq.2 gives:
a = 1/(4 + 12)
a = 1/16

Therefore, the parabola that is tangential with y = 2x at (4,8) is given by the equation:
f(x) = (1/16)*(x + 12)^2 - 8

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Are you in Yr 11 now? If you are then I don't think you would have learnt differentiation yet so the above solution would mean nonsense to you but I can't see how this question can be solved without calculus.
 

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here's the approach without calculus. (ssglain, i'm disappointed)

For f(x) = a*(x + b)^2 - 8 to have a tangent y = 2x at (4,8) two conditions have to be met:
1. f(4) = 8 [the parabola passes through (4,8)]
2. when you solve f(x) with y = 2x, delta = 0.

this will leave you with a simultaneous equation (though a relatively hard one). in any case, if you know it, calculus is definitely the way to go.
 

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Thanks. I kept trying to algebra bash it, and got really ugly equation, and even tried standard parabola form, but I forgot the substitution method! Bah!

Btw, we just started to learn calculus. We're doing differentiation of logs and trig and crap.
 

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Shush kony. :p

BUT, ah ha! Ugly simultaneous equation. Calculus wins.

So Dongle are you doing your 2U maths HSC a year early?
 

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ssglain said:
Shush kony. :p

BUT, ah ha! Ugly simultaneous equation. Calculus wins.

So Dongle are you doing your 2U maths HSC a year early?
Nope. My school's doing topics in a different order I suppose.
 

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