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Not necessaraleesaraleesaraleewell if they do not go to heaven, they go to hell.
Not necessaraleesaraleesaraleewell if they do not go to heaven, they go to hell.
I do not trust peoples interpretation of the bible, nor do i claim that mine is always correct, but before, deciding on what i believe about something, i get the variety of opinions on the issues, discuss it in depth and think about it, look at what the bible has to say about things, from a variety of places in the bible, and then make my decision.Is the bible the undisputable divine word of god as it was perfectly passed down to each of the writers of the various books of the bible who managed to get their works included by the many divinely inspired groups who decided the fate of the bible (such as the council of nicea), passed down through many generations and translated by divinely inspired translators who then eventually passed it on, not just the text but the meaning of it, through many divinely inspired re interpretations leading up to our time/your family/your pastor (or what have you) and their divinely inspired interpretations before still remaining the perfect word of god as it is understood by you through your divinely inspired interpretation ???
I really never get people who feel their perspective on their religious text (particularly the bible) is so much better than someone else's
Go read your bibleNot necessaraleesaraleesaralee
Lol you prots. Me and my friends decide on the greatest questions of theology by randomly reading a biblical verse and deciding that it's 'written very very clear'.I do not trust peoples interpretation of the bible, nor do i claim that mine is always correct, but before, deciding on what i believe about something, i get the variety of opinions on the issues, discuss it in depth and think about it, look at what the bible has to say about things, from a variety of places in the bible, and then make my decision.
This actually occured yesterday when me and some friends were discussing predestination, we looked at what the bible says in a variety of places and back up what we are saying, much of this , for example if other religions go to heaven, is clear in the bible, and is written very very clearly, there is really no other way of interpreting it other then looking outside the bible
This was just an example you are taking what is said a bit far, this was just an example of us discussing issues with biblical evidence. Not deciding what is correct about great theological issues.Lol you prots. Me and my friends decide on the greatest questions of theology by randomly reading a biblical verse and deciding that it's 'written very very clear'.
Next time youre in trouble with the law, forget the lawyers and just google 'crime'. Pretty sure this will give you all you need to defend yourself
So what happens to people who die without hearing the word of christ? HELLFIRE?!:burn:This was just an example you are taking what is said a bit far, this was just an example of us discussing issues with biblical evidence. Not deciding what is correct about great theological issues.
Tbh things like heaven and hell, and other relgions is perfectly clear in the bible, the only way i could see believing in say purgatory is by going to other sources like the pope
I am not going to answer this question until i look into it more, i do not want to answer a question which i do not know in detail at the risk of getting it very wrong.So what happens to people who die without hearing the word of christ? HELLFIRE?!:burn:
Yeah, other sources like those who have devoted their lives to applying the reason-based totality of the Holy word to the everyday lives of people - you know, experts!This was just an example you are taking what is said a bit far, this was just an example of us discussing issues with biblical evidence. Not deciding what is correct about great theological issues.
Tbh things like heaven and hell, and other relgions is perfectly clear in the bible, the only way i could see believing in say purgatory is by going to other sources like the pope
I do look at experts for there opinions and what they have to say about the issue also within the research, but i am against people claiming something that is either not in the bible or not in-line with what the bible has to sayYeah, other sources like those who have devoted their lives to applying the reason-based totality of the Holy word to the everyday lives of people - you know, experts!
Oh but no but they could never know something about God that I dont already think that I know but
The point is that you deem yourself as the ultimate arbitrator of what is biblical and what is not. Another way of saying this is that you believe that you yourself are the only person able to determine truth; i.e. you dont believe in God. It's fair enough to use reason and common sense to find truth, but in your case it's just arrogance. I mean, if a doctor tells you to take x pills, do you walk away saying 'I dont agree because my knowledge of this illness has nothing to do with those pills'???I do look at experts for there opinions and what they have to say about the issue also within the research, but i am against people claiming something that is either not in the bible or not in-line with what the bible has to say
In no way do i believe i am the ultimate arbitrator of what is biblical and what is not. I do not believe that i am the only person that is able to determine truth, that is God. I am willing to have my views corrected and i do not believe that i am always right, after all i am a human.The point is that you deem yourself as the ultimate arbitrator of what is biblical and what is not. Another way of saying this is that you believe that you yourself are the only person able to determine truth; i.e. you dont believe in God. It's fair enough to use reason and common sense to find truth, but in your case it's just arrogance. I mean, if a doctor tells you to take x pills, do you walk away saying 'I dont agree because my knowledge of this illness has nothing to do with those pills'???
SUBMIT to Papal authority, treacherous heretic
People don't submit nearly enough these days.SUBMIT to Papal authority, treacherous heretic
Welcome to CatholicIn no way do i believe i am the ultimate arbitrator of what is biblical and what is not. I do not believe that i am the only person that is able to determine truth, that is God. I am willing to have my views corrected and i do not believe that i am always right, after all i am a human.
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Submission is what made us great imoPeople don't submit nearly enough these days.
Good is subjective. Things non-Christians see as good, god sees as bad, and vice-versa.The important thing is that we all strive to be good.
Lol, I don't hate Christianity.But anyway, what's behind your hatred of Christianity, Sylvester? Really. Why are you so angry with God? Care to share your personal experience?