• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

help the dumb dumb again (1 Viewer)

me dumb

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2009
Messages
37
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
i)express sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t) in the form Rsin(4t +a) where a is in radians
ii)hence solve sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)=0
part ii) i could do without the first proof, but i would still like to know how to do it with the above proof. mainly becasue the way i did it was easy
divide both sides by cos4t
tan4t=-sqrt3
easy =)
any help is appreciated
 

me dumb

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2009
Messages
37
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
you're not dumb... i don't even do extension maths...
hopefully it attracts peoples attention
hehe well ive never seen the above type question be4 and i only have simple harmonic motion left, so i missed something
what topic does this go under?
 

danal353

Member
Joined
Jan 16, 2008
Messages
456
Location
Sydney
Gender
Female
HSC
2009
trigonometry? when it comes to maths, i'm really not the right person to ask... :)
 

addikaye03

The A-Team
Joined
Nov 16, 2006
Messages
1,267
Location
Albury-Wodonga, NSW
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
i)express sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t) in the form Rsin(4t +a) where a is in radians
ii)hence solve sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)=0
part ii) i could do without the first proof, but i would still like to know how to do it with the above proof. mainly becasue the way i did it was easy
divide both sides by cos4t
tan4t=-sqrt3
easy =)
any help is appreciated
i) ok, So R=rt (a^2+b^2) so R=rt ( 1^3 +(sqrt 3)^2)= rt4=2

tan(b/a)=rt (3), by looking at exact value triangles:

=pi/3

Thereofore sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)=2sin(4t+pi/3)

ii) Now we set the above equal to 0, 2sin(4t+pi/3)=0

4t+pi/3=0; pi where 0<=x<=2pi

therefore t= -pi/12, pi/6 #

Alternative:

ii)sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)=0

sin^2(4t)+3cos^2(4t)=0

sin^2(4t)+3(1-sin^2(4t))=0

sin^2(4t)+3-3sin^2(4t)=0

2sin^2(4t)-3=0...then solve accordingly

But since it says "hence" this CANNOT be done, if it said "Hence or otherwise" then go ahead
 
Last edited:

Pwnage101

Moderator
Joined
May 3, 2008
Messages
1,408
Location
in Pursuit of Happiness.
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
Basically, the theory behind this 'auxiliary angle method' is that, by expoansion,

Rsin(4t +a)=R[sin(4t)cos(a)+sin(a)cos(4t)].......... (1)

we have sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)

know take the coefficient of sin4t and cos4t and square root the sum of their squares to get R

ie if it si Asin4t + Bcos4t, R would equal root(A^2+B^2)

so in this case R = 2

so we can write sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)

as 2[(1/2)*sin(4t)+(sqrt3/2)cos(4t)] ....(2)

now we equate and compare (1) and (2), put one on the line under the other.

R[sin(4t)cos(a)+sin(a)cos(4t)]

=

2[(1/2)*sin(4t)+(sqrt3/2)cos(4t)]

so R = 2

cos(a) = (1/2) and sin(a) = (sqrt3/2) by comparing the coefficients in each

so it is clear, in radians, a = pi/3

thus sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t) = 2sin(4t+pi/3)

addikaye03 did (ii)
 

me dumb

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2009
Messages
37
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
i) ok, So R=rt (a^2+b^2) so R=rt ( 1^3 +(sqrt 3)^2)= rt4=2
quote]
sorry, why does R=rt(a^2+b^2) and why does 1^3=a^2 and (rt3)^2=b^2
wat i assume it is is the number infront of the sin and cos?
thnx
 

me dumb

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2009
Messages
37
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
Basically, the theory behind this 'auxiliary angle method' is that, by expoansion,

Rsin(4t +a)=R[sin(4t)cos(a)+sin(a)cos(4t)].......... (1)

we have sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)

know take the coefficient of sin4t and cos4t and square root the sum of their squares to get R

ie if it si Asin4t + Bcos4t, R would equal root(A^2+B^2)

so in this case R = 2

so we can write sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t)

as 2[(1/2)*sin(4t)+(sqrt3/2)cos(4t)] ....(2)

now we equate and compare (1) and (2), put one on the line under the other.

R[sin(4t)cos(a)+sin(a)cos(4t)]

=

2[(1/2)*sin(4t)+(sqrt3/2)cos(4t)]

so R = 2

cos(a) = (1/2) and sin(a) = (sqrt3/2) by comparing the coefficients in each

so it is clear, in radians, a = pi/3

thus sin4t + sqrt3(cos4t) = 2sin(4t+pi/3)

addikaye03 did (ii)
o i undertand now thanyou
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top