Garygaz
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His post made me scratch my head. It took me too long to realise I shouldn't have bothered reading it.
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HumanDichotomy
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What brain?
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Again, responding to your comments! Or are you too ashamed to read/remember them?
I haven't fucked up because i had to explain my answers and examples to you and all those like you. If you think i'm wrong, don't talk. I tend to argue my points, especially when i'm right. So, when you want to be a fucktard; do it by yourself.
this is a good point. maybe if the government didnt make it seem that homosexuals with kids was such a bad thing, the rest of the country would actually think about the fact that gays have the same rights as everyone else, and should be allowed to have what everyone else does. also, the only reason children are being bullied in school because of their gay parents, or for being gay themselves, is because it has been drummed into their minds by media, parents, peers and the government that being homosexual is wrong.
a very common debate, but we're getting nowhere are we.
Definately, most governments will avoid such an area of debate at all cost.
avoid. but then why are they refusing to give gay rights?? they dont allow adoption by gay parents, or marriage between gays, its the government that is stopping this, not individuals. and it all comes back to the catholic beliefs, that homosexuality is wrong.
Because they are AVOIDING it. If it was raised in parliament, it would turn into a debate which would gain publicity, and since Voters are categorised (Religious, Student, Family, Sexual orientation), the government would keep away because they would lose their voters.
I will let you guess which group.
It isn't just the Catholic beliefs, I can't stress that enough and who is to say that the act of practicing homosexuality isn't as bad to the Catholics as practicing Catholicism is to the homosexuals. Typical of people to randomly choose one side of a two sided arguement that they have no stake in and then persecute the other side. Why is that any better?
Not saying that you are persecuting Catholics cookkii, just saying that others are.
its ok. im not persecuting catholics, just disagreeing with some of their beliefs. im the catholic who doesnt believe what the church would rather she did. i understand that its not just catholic beliefs, but other religions and cultures as well, but fortunately, australia is not a religious fundamentalist country, so why should our laws be dictated by beliefs which, tbh, are not shared by many of the population?? especially seeing as some of these beliefs, such as catholicism, also preach understanding and acceptance of others, no matter their beliefs, or preferences.
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that's not...
entirely true
isnt it? please, explain to me what i havent quite understood about my own religion.
arent we?? because thats what i was always taught in church. and i doubt its their mission, there are many gays who still wish to remain catholic, but cannot practice their faith because of how their faith treats them. The Lord created them this way, so why should they not be accepted?
black_kat_meow
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Christ gave nothing but silence, yet many Catholics take it upon themselves to actively prosecute those who "detract from [the] faith"?
Interesting how Catholics may take from the doctrine only what they please to.
I loathe religious preachers telling me or other gay citizens that we are not entitled the same rights as heterosexual persons.
I believe that when assimilation ceased for Australian immigrants and Aboriginies and were equal to other citizens, that was when Australia should have also been accepting of same sex couples and their rights.
If Centrelink recognises de facto gay couples rights, then Parliament's viewpoint on same sex couples should follow.
I believe that when assimilation ceased for Australian immigrants and Aboriginies and were equal to other citizens, that was when Australia should have also been accepting of same sex couples and their rights.
If Centrelink recognises de facto gay couples rights, then Parliament's viewpoint on same sex couples should follow.
HumanDichotomy
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In the end, I think we can't consider ourselves a country which gives everyone a 'fair go' and all those other great things we're supposed to value, if we don't even allow two people who love each other to have a family.
yeah, reminds me of a quote from a play we read this year
"We are worth it, just not worth losing an election over"
Is more about votes and staying power than making everyones lives better. -as long as they always look good and 'look' like they are doing the right thing.
Who are these people who show prejudice towards christians and catholics??? I can understand why they would, just as catholics and christians would, but it doesnt make it any less wrong. Prejudice is horrible, get to know the person first, done categorise them then make assumptions
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HumanDichotomy
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Ah, can't rep you anymore. But I wish I could.
