Youth Allowance Eligibility (4 Viewers)

[Will Shakespear]

Why do you make the assumption that parents should be expected to financially support adult children?

Sure, Centrelink tries to push this idea that the financial age of independence is 25 (22 if the new legislation passes through parliament) but where in society is this supported?

Most greek, italian, chinese, indian... families

basically anyone who's not a bogan n tries to push their kids out by 17

 

[aussie-boy]

Most greek, italian, chinese, indian... families

basically anyone who's not a bogan n tries to push their kids out by 17

Most Australian families have the expectation that kids should leave between 18-20... and no, not just bogans

 

[Sgt Grumbles]

Most greek, italian, chinese, indian... families

basically anyone who's not a bogan n tries to push their kids out by 17

This is an unbelievably racist comment that greeks, italians, chinese and indian are apparently rorting welfare,

Moderators please

 

[Will Shakespear]

This is an unbelievably racist comment that greeks, italians, chinese and indian are apparently rorting welfare,

Moderators please

hmm?

oh, i just meant in those cultures there's not an expectation that the kids be out (and breeding) by 18

 

[Anonymous-]

This is an unbelievably racist comment that greeks, italians, chinese and indian are apparently rorting welfare,

stfu, its the truth.

Moderators please

only and jewish posts are moderated ok.

 

[SnowFox]

stfu, its the truth.


only and jewish posts are moderated ok.

And trolling trolls apparently.

 

[red-butterfly]

we could all aford a uni education if only uni fees would be much lower

 

[Graney]

I sure hope the governments proposed amendments to youth allowance pass.

 

[moll.]

we could all aford a uni education if only uni fees would be much lower

Kinda like in France, where the annual fees are 150 Euros and where, despite having more universities per capita than most other nations, only a handful make the international rankings, less than even Australia?
Yeah, great system.

 

[Will Shakespear]

Kinda like in France, where the annual fees are 150 Euros and where, despite having more universities per capita than most other nations, only a handful make the international rankings, less than even Australia?
Yeah, great system.

that's just because of all the muslims there, but

 

[aussie-boy]

we could all aford a uni education if only uni fees would be much lower

Uni fees impose no financial burden until you have a secure job.

Living costs while studying are a far more important issue.

I quite like the recent senate inquiry's recommendation that all students who move away from home be given $10k pa. I don't see why those still at home should receive anything at all.

 

[jb_nc]

I sure hope the governments proposed amendments to youth allowance pass.

what are the amendments?

this shit is off the hook if it doesnt pass

 

[Graney]

what are the amendments?

this shit is off the hook if it doesnt pass

Apparently all of the old commonwealth scholarships were canceled to budget for the new proposed scholarships, but then it didn't pass the first time. So there are no commonwealth scholarships at all if some shit doesn't get passed.

After it was rejected by the senate last time, they've amended it so that the $19'700 route to independence will still be claimable till the middle of this year, when it was going to be canceled in January. Which was the major objection, so by all right it should fly now.

Broadening the parental income brackets, at the expense of the independence scam is better policy.

 

[banco55]

Uni fees impose no financial burden until you have a secure job.

Living costs while studying are a far more important issue.

I quite like the recent senate inquiry's recommendation that all students who move away from home be given $10k pa. I don't see why those still at home should receive anything at all.

Because it would encourage students living at home to move out and end up costing more in the long run.

 

[red-butterfly]

i agree

 

[jb_nc]

Apparently all of the old commonwealth scholarships were canceled to budget for the new proposed scholarships, but then it didn't pass the first time. So there are no commonwealth scholarships at all if some shit doesn't get passed.

After it was rejected by the senate last time, they've amended it so that the $19'700 route to independence will still be claimable till the middle of this year, when it was going to be canceled in January. Which was the major objection, so by all right it should fly now.

Broadening the parental income brackets, at the expense of the independence scam is better policy.

iirc steve fielding hated it because it gave country bumpkins a unfair go

he was the one holding it back, i thought

 

[loquasagacious]

Apparently all of the old commonwealth scholarships were canceled to budget for the new proposed scholarships, but then it didn't pass the first time. So there are no commonwealth scholarships at all if some shit doesn't get passed.

After it was rejected by the senate last time, they've amended it so that the $19'700 route to independence will still be claimable till the middle of this year, when it was going to be canceled in January. Which was the major objection, so by all right it should fly now.

Broadening the parental income brackets, at the expense of the independence scam is better policy.

This is correct.

Risk is that ETS debate forces it off the senate agenda though.

 

[aussie-boy]

Because it would encourage students living at home to move out and end up costing more in the long run.

When you're old enough to want to move out, you should be able to afford to do so.

The Gov is atm just leeching off parents and ignoring their duty to support young adult citizens.

+ , moving to seek better educational opportunities is a good thing that will lead to inc tax revenues in the future. $10,000 pa is not enough of an incentive to get people to move out just to claim the cash (as that would barely cover rent)

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

When you're old enough to want to move out, you should be able to afford to do so.

The Gov is atm just leeching off parents and ignoring their duty to support young adult citizens.

+ , moving to seek better educational opportunities is a good thing that will lead to inc tax revenues in the future. $10,000 pa is not enough of an incentive to get people to move out just to claim the cash (as that would barely cover rent)

You've got some sense of entitlement there buddy.

Not surprising though when only 10% of people in the poll believe in scrapping YA.

I guess people can't resist a free lunch.

 

[Graney]

The Gov is atm just leeching off parents and ignoring their duty to support young adult citizens.

Why does the government have a duty, but the parents have no duty to support their offspring? How have you arbitrarily determined that responsibility lies in this way?

Why is demanding millions of dollars be forcibly taken from taxpayers, better than if that same money were to come voluntarily from people who actually care about their offspring, people who voluntarily chose to enter into the responsibility of raising a child, and based on the parental means test have ample capability to provide this money.