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Hi guys,

I know a few European languages, but I'd like to learn an Asian language. I already speak a South Asian language.

I want to learn either Mandarin or Japanese, to challenge myself, explore one of the cultures through their literature, and learn the language at a conversational and written level too. And I suppose from a business perspective one of the above may become useful also.

Which would you suggest? Mandarin or Japanese?

I know we can't answer this question in totality or even adequately but I have to ask also: which is a bit easier to learn?

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i would say Mandarin is hard considering the range of characters
Japanese also isn't easy but then again it doesn't have as many [kanji, hiragana...] characters you need to learn compared to Mandarin

for business perspectives, in Australia, mandarin might be a better choice
but if your going overseas [China, Japan...], obviously learn the respective languages

i would recommend placing your decison on which culture interests you more
 

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Hi Tofuu,

You've made some really good points, thanks for the tips mate!

I'll have to do a toss up, like you said, based on which culture I'm more interested in :)

thanks again
 

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I am currently learning Mandarin. It's a lot of fun =] The hardest thing about it though, is that it's a tonal language. Potentially, one sound can have four different meanings depending on how you say it. I agree with the previous post though. I find it quite easy to remember. The characters are hard though :/ I have a passion for China though, so it's always fun.

If I ever truly feel fluent in Mandarin, I'd also love to learn Japanese. I'd probably learn French first though.

Good luck =]
 

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I'd say Japanese is really only useful if you really want to either a) travel to Japan or b) watch anime/play japanese games (before they are translated into english)/listen to Jpop/etc...

Mandarin on the other hand would be infinitely more useful in both business/career and you'll probably get more opportunities to use it in Australia (e.g. Chinatown). There's also plenty of Chinese tv shows, movies, music, etc.. you can also get into (as an alternative to Japanese).
 

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Awesome! Keep your thoughts coming, it is helping me form a decision :)

So far, Mandarin seems to be winning - based on what everyone has said. Seems to have much more scope..
 

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Japanese ftw!! I can't wait to re-learn the language after HSC. :D Not fluently but understand enough to communicate and watch anime/dramas unsubbed
I've found Mandarin hard to learn but simple to speak.
 

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Ideally I'd love to learn both really well, but that would be unrealistic for a guy who's only learnt Latin based languages(Italian & Spanish). So, am still weighing it up :)

Japanese looks cooler for some reason..3 alphabets..travel in Japan..Japanese culture..

But then similar can be said about Mandarin Chinese I'm guessing? Have done some research on it, I think Mandarin would definitely challenge me too.
 

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Mandarin is way more useful business/career wise as China's global influence spreads. Also, its grammar/ sentence structure is really similar to english which makes it easier to speak and write. Japanese is for weabos lol lol.
 

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Okay, I've made a decision. Mandarin. I think it's going to be fucking hard, but I'm up for the challenge!

Hmm...I think I'm going to have to find a community college or language school for it..or a private tutor perhaps?

gumtree.com.au here I come!
 

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Rosetta Stone is a useful program that is working wonders for me. Just something to consider for learning the basics which will help you when you get into actual lessons. =]
 

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I would like to learn how to read and write mandarin... it's the most spoken language in the world
 

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I would like to learn how to read and write mandarin... it's the most spoken language in the world
You don't "read and write" Mandarin. Mandarin is the official dialect of China.

I think you mean simplified Chinese.

Personally Chinese is far easier than Japanese and you're more likely to speak it.

Japanese is too complicated and is like a bastardized hybrid language, I mean if you enjoy Japanese culture then great.
 

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I'm studying both, I always was more a Japanese fan but i think that is largely because of the people... as far as the languages go Chinese is pretty fun
 

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Cheers for all your thoughts so far.

I'm still mulling it over. Both sound like good options.

And I'm equally interested in both. In terms of ease, I think Japanese would be a good choice, at least it has set alphabets? Unlike Chinese...
 

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Cheers for all your thoughts so far.

I'm still mulling it over. Both sound like good options.

And I'm equally interested in both. In terms of ease, I think Japanese would be a good choice, at least it has set alphabets? Unlike Chinese...
For practicality - Mandarin would be a better choice. Firstly, it is spoken around the world, and yes there are a lot more Mandarin speakers in Australia (so again it'd be more useful, however note that although Mandarin is gaining popularity - Cantonese is still the main lingua franca of a lot of the Chinese communities).

However it also depends what culture you like, and why you're learning. I personally want to learn Mandarin because I'm chinese. Also note, there's pinyin for mandarin, which is pretty much like our alphabet.
 

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Cheers for all your thoughts so far.

I'm still mulling it over. Both sound like good options.

And I'm equally interested in both. In terms of ease, I think Japanese would be a good choice, at least it has set alphabets? Unlike Chinese...
Lol, ask any language expert and the answer will be, 'jap is much much harder'. It has atrocious grammar like Polish or russian.
 

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Lol, ask any language expert and the answer will be, 'jap is much much harder'. It has atrocious grammar like Polish or russian.
Oh god... *runs*

Mandarin then..? lol

I reckon I will decide by mid march and start learning..so I have til then to decide. And really it's for no particular reason other than pure interest, and maybe practicality with careers in future.

China's history and culture is something I have always wanted to explore..really interesting stuff! Knowing the language would be of help, and fun..

Also how about learning practicalities? I'm guessing both self-learn packages would be available..but what about availability of teachers/courses?
 

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