We made a mistake with Rudd, didn't we? (10 Viewers)

[Grape juice]

i am discussing the facts. and the fact is that yes, this generation of australians are more computer-literate than the last.

but we are not a majority of citizens that resort to illegal practises (alternative IP addresses ect.)

those are the facts, dont try and butter them up with "computer nerd" terminology. face the facts. or eat them in your defeat.

how bout the main % of internet users? wouldnt that be a better statistic?

i wouldnt see any reason for a demand in CP among old folks (why by, unless, they take viagra morning, afternoon, night - and have a fetish for CP)

a good assessment will be based on the % of frequent/internet users. Since we're talking about the implications on internet users.

know how to judge your stats.

 

[Lauchlan]

What about the police who have to investigate this stuff browsing through hundreds/thousands of images on the internet and pedophiles computers after they get caught? Does that raise some questions also?

But more to the point.. why are you commenting in these threads if you have no idea how the internet works?

i have a general idea. but i dont spend my life mucking around with the internet. if there were a policy to stop you from doing that then that would be doing you a favour, seriously go outside, stop wasting your time with technology (too much of a good thing is bad) and my general knowledge is good enough to put political points forward, provide evidence and justification - then await your response which lacks all 3

 

[SnowFox]

there are different definitions of 'nerds' held by different people and you know that. nice try though - you almost had a point.

Im a IT nut, does that mean im a nerd and more likely to circumvent the filter to view supposedly illegal content?

 

[Lauchlan]

I actually laughed out loud at this. It's hilariously irrelevant.

i admit i do get off-topic sometimes lol. but this internet issue is only one of any that could be discussed you know. id be happy to argue with you about something else too ;P

 

[Lauchlan]

i smell a pro-communist

in theory communism is good but in practice its not. many people share that view.

 

[SnowFox]

i have a general idea. but i dont spend my life mucking around with the internet. if there were a policy to stop you from doing that then that would be doing you a favour, seriously go outside, stop wasting your time with technology (too much of a good thing is bad) and my general knowledge is good enough to put political points forward, provide evidence and justification - then await your response which lacks all 3

political points forward, provide evidence and justification

Political Point- Internet filter to stop the bad stuff we dont want kiddies viewing.

Evidence to back up filter- Derp, non. Evidence supports the fact the filter will fail.

Justification- P2P networks will not be filtered, internet speeds will be made 50-87% slower dependent on area (Conroy forgot to mention that little fact in the 7pm project), slower then brazil.

 

[Lauchlan]

yeah everyone give him a break, he actually has to leave the house to be ill informed and misguided.

yep.... well its true i leave the house. that might be a foreign concept for you.
you see, leaving the house can actually help you to be informed and guided, but i wouldn't expect you to understand.

 

[Lauchlan]

you dont need to know computer science to know that.

its what ive been mentioning about how govts cant block FTPs.

FTP was established in 1971 m8.

FTP???????? i bet you many normal people dont know what that means. unless you mean free to plays (games). stop being so paranoid.

your like "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"

 

[Lauchlan]

and im here talking about efficiency.

what are you comparing it to? nothing?

so the choice is Rudd's policy OR nothing (Abbott has failed to deliver alternative policy)

 

[SnowFox]

http://www.dinkumdemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/nam_kidsandNapalm_thumb.png


Didnt tag because it was deemed naughty to some eyes but it portrays exactly what this filter will fucking block.

 

[SnowFox]

FTP???????? i bet you many normal people dont know what that means. unless you mean free to plays (games). stop being so paranoid.

your like "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"

File Transfer Protocol, commonly called Peer 2 Peer.

I.E. Limewire, mininova, Torrents.

 

[Lauchlan]

CP websites are already banned.
CP hosting is punishable by prosecution.
The AFP already monitors CP download and creation.
The AFP does what the filter does.
This does the exact same and is actually monitored. Net Nanny Filter Software - Lowest Download Price
Government can easily send out these Net Nanny Filter Software - Lowest Download Price to any parent who want to protect their children from titties.
Get a clue about what is actually happening you prepubescent knob.



Exactly, negative, going backwards, like china.

I agree with you and nothing i have said contradicts what you just said.
China is communist BTW. Labor is not communist from any other party's perspective other than liberal/national. YOU are the opposition making these claims. I'd of thought you learnt something in High School History regarding the Vietnam War.

 

[jarkler]

i have a general idea. but i dont spend my life mucking around with the internet. if there were a policy to stop you from doing that then that would be doing you a favour, seriously go outside, stop wasting your time with technology (too much of a good thing is bad) and my general knowledge is good enough to put political points forward, provide evidence and justification - then await your response which lacks all 3

You've never provided any evidence for any of the retarded shit you've stated.

 

[SnowFox]

I agree with you and nothing i have said contradicts what you just said.
China is communist BTW. Labor is not communist from any other party's perspective other than liberal/national. YOU are the opposition making these claims. I'd of thought you learnt something in High School History regarding the Vietnam War.

Yeah...Vietnam =/= china?

 

[SnowFox]

The filter will do almost nothing to prevent the people who are willfully making, trading, and accessing child sexual abuse material. This type of material is not distributed in the open and we need to fund police to continue to infiltrate and prosecute the groups of people responsible for creating and distributing such material.

The filter will not prevent children from accessing inappropriate material. The proposed category of censored sites will not be wide enough to provide assurances to parents. Parents will be much better served by installing one of the many voluntary filters that are currently available and ensuring that their children are adequately supervised and aware of risks they may face online.

The list of material to be banned includes much more than child sexual abuse material. The category of material that has been 'refused classification' includes websites about euthanasia, controversial movies such as 'Ken Park' and 'Baise-moi', and many games that are designed for people over 16 years of age.

Despite being almost universally condemned by the public, ISPs, State Governments, Media and censorship experts, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy is determined to force this filter into your home.

He can suck my dick first.

 

[Grape juice]

FTP???????? i bet you many normal people dont know what that means. unless you mean free to plays (games).

m8. you're an utter disgrace to the internet community. its been out since 1971, and you're telling me many normal people dont know it?

That makes no shit sense.
You should seriously get out of the rock you're under.

EDIT:
also, what you previously posted

illegal practises (alternative IP addresses ect.)

using proxies have never been illegal ever since the internet was founded.

 

[withoutaface]

Year 11 Preliminary HSC Subjects 2010

English Advanced, English Extension, Mathematics Advanced, Biology, Geography, Legal Studies, Society and Culture.

 

[jarkler]

File Transfer Protocol, commonly called Peer 2 Peer.

I.E. Limewire, mininova, Torrents.

FTP != p2p.

 

[SnowFox]

FTP != p2p.

I said it is commonly called that, not that it is true Peer 2 Peer.

 

[jarkler]

No it isn't m8.