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was it morally right?
There is nothing in Islam that says "When people stop living like animals, then you should stop having sex with menstruating 10 year olds". Islam is defined as a universal religion and its pillars are meant to be eternal.Was morally accepted.
You must firstly understand that in Islam there is no separation between the state and religion. Apostasy is essentially considered treason to the state. And treason just like everywhere else is punishable by death. Seeing as there is no Islamic state, said punishment is currently irrelevant.
Said slaves were essentially captives from war. And no, punishment for a slave who runs away is not severe beating.
The freeing of slaves is actually encouraged in Islam as a method of phasing the concept of slavery out. Just like alcohol was slowly phased out so was slavery.
Hmmm.ibbi00 said:You must firstly understand that in Islam there is no separation between the state and religion. Apostasy is essentially considered treason to the state. And treason just like everywhere else is punishable by death. Seeing as there is no Islamic state, said punishment is currently irrelevant.
Early in Islamic history, the only form of treason was seen as the attempt to overthrow a just government or waging war against the State. According to Arab tradition the prescribed punishment ranged from imprisonment to the severing of limbs and the death penalty depending on the severity of the crime, however even in cases of treason the repentance of a person would have to be taken into account.[9] However contrary to popular belief Apostasy was not considered Treason, and there is no example of punishment during Muhammed's time.
Currently, the consensus among major Islamic schools is that it is considered treason if a Muslim converts (see also Apostasy in Islam), although there is no support for this in the Quran. The penalty is death.[10][11][12][13][14][15] This confusion between apostasy and treason almost certainly had its roots in the Ridda Wars, in which an army of rebel traitors led by the self-proclaimed prophet Musaylima attempted to destroy the caliphate of Abu Bakr.
In the nineteenth and early twentieth century, the Iranian Cleric Sheikh Fazlollah Noori opposed the Iranian Constitutional Revolution by inciting insurrection against them through issuing Fatwahs and publishing pamphlets arguing democracy will bring vice to the country. The new government executed him for treason in 1909. In Malaysia, it is treason to commit offences against the Yang di-Pertuan Agong’s person, waging, attempting to wage war or abetting the waging of war against the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, a Ruler or Yang di-Pertua Negeri. All these offences are punishable by hanging, which derives from the English treason acts (a former British colony, Malaysia's legal system is based on English common law).
God's word is unchangeable; he gets described that way by Allah directly. If Allah isn't right about that anymore, can Allah's word about other things be wrong now?Was morally accepted.
Note that for female apostates, the sentence appears to be either death or imprisonment until they repent.Apostasy in Islam
Please note that there are two types of apostates: murtad fitri and murtad milli. "The fist means that one has been born a Muslim. The second that one has converted to Islam. In the first case, if someone who has been born a Muslim OPENLY AND FREELY REJECTS the Religion of Islam (which means he considers the Holy Prophet to be liar astagfirullah) then he has to be killed IRRESPECTIVE of whether he repents or not. Maybe Allah will accept his repentance but he still has to be punished in this world."
Someone sourcing their information from a Wikipedia article that lacks citation should not be taken seriously in a debate.Hmmm.
guess i'm being a brick wall againwas it morally right?
Again, you lack the credibility. CITATION should come either from a) Quran b) Hadith c) Credible and recognised scholars.Apostasy in Islam
Please note that there are two types of apostates: murtad fitri and murtad milli. "The fist means that one has been born a Muslim. The second that one has converted to Islam. In the first case, if someone who has been born a Muslim OPENLY AND FREELY REJECTS the Religion of Islam (which means he considers the Holy Prophet to be liar astagfirullah) then he has to be killed IRRESPECTIVE of whether he repents or not. Maybe Allah will accept his repentance but he still has to be punished in this world."
Lacking citations? Really?Someone sourcing their information from a Wikipedia article that lacks citation should not be taken seriously in a debate.
You don't really get Wikipedia, do you?Again, you lack the credibility. CITATION should come either from a) Quran b) Hadith c) Credible and recognised scholars.
As far as I can tell, if Allah says something is good, AND his word is eternal, infallible and unchangeable, THEN it must be good for all times and all places.God's word is unchangeable; he gets described that way by Allah directly. If Allah isn't right about that anymore, can Allah's word about other things be wrong now?
Great work there. Paste a Wikipedia link and hope that it magically unravels a rational argument for you.Lacking citations? Really?
Most of that is a summary of this: Apostasy in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which has lots and lots of citations
Attack the argument.
So are you actually going to argue against the substance of what I posted?Great work there. Paste a Wikipedia link and hope that it magically unravels a rational argument for you.
I do. The previous extract from Wikipedia had citations from FOXnews.com ... C'mon.You don't really get Wikipedia, do you?
You posted a link for god's sake... Here's a tip on how you should proceed.So are you actually going to argue against the substance of what I posted?
http://community.boredofstudies.org...ics/248077/ayaan-hirsi-ali/3.html#post5168710You posted a link for god's sake... Here's a tip on how you should proceed.
1. Skim through the article.
2. Highlight points you believe to be of a rational and credible substance.
3. PASTE THEM HERE.