Lolsmith
kill all boomers
obviously you're far more well read than I am, but I thought I'd give it a crack
aus is still very homogeneous gooner, but pretending that even our "multiethnic paradise" doesnt have conflict of that sort is retardedokay so why aren't we murdering people right now in Australia since we have a huge multiethnic society oh because there are more factors than just "lol these guys are blacker than we are lets get em"
PROPAGANDA BY THE STATEpropaganda generated by the state,
ok aer we saying that there are also conflicts between nations as well as within nationsGermans rarely had interaction with Slavs in the early 20th century (assumption), but the Nazis still felt it necessary to kick the shit out of them because of their perceptions of them generated from a megalomaniac who was a man against time
not necessarily states but i'd say groups (however defined her) tend to desire to live around themselves and prefer to interact amongst themselves than with other groupsbut aren't people constantly striving for homogenous states of ethnicities
There are probably many factors.. and also tipping points.okay so why aren't we murdering people right now in Australia since we have a huge multiethnic society oh because there are more factors than just "lol these guys are blacker than we are lets get em"
Nationalism is usually done as a reaction to some perceived threat. Was early anti-Semitism in Germany caused solely by the state or whipped up by many folk in the form of rumours and independent press along religious/racial and economic lines?These have taken place in societies that, yes do have different ethnic societies, but are fueled by a prevailing current of nationalist sentiment, that murdering them is okay because they are inferior and deserve it and is based around propaganda generated by the state, not from an inherit desire for monoculturalism. How many Germans today are out and about putting Jews in gas chambers? None, because Nazis did that.
Then they probably just vote based on their own ethnicity.but aren't people constantly striving for homogenous states of ethnicities
I don't want to read his racist authors either, but I think that the UN wrote some big report where they concluded that a big percentage of conflicts in the world were basically caused by too much diversity.obviously you're far more well read than I am, but I thought I'd give it a crack
lol wtf thank dentistsI don't want to read his racist authors either,
to saying you don't want to read authors because they are "racist"Anti-nationalism is anti-white.
I literally did just thenyeah but nobody is saying that
sounds like a good warningO
Haha Aca tonight
Warning us about the gypsies
Nah.lol wtf thank dentists
i thought you were just davidbarnesfan
I was joking lol.how can you go from saying things like:
to saying you don't want to read authors because they are "racist"
i dont get it
Like kidnapping Christian children and putting them in bread.could antisemitism have been in the past in part been a reaction to the actions of......
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the jews
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heaven forbid!
about which partI was joking lol.
did they really do that lolI was joking lol.
Like kidnapping Christian children and putting them in bread.
I care so little about arguing this thoroughly that I'm going to just say that on what I've seen, obscene nationalism (in whatever form it is) has caused a fuckload of disgusting atrocities that I just can't contribute to simple ethnic conflict.aus is still very homogeneous gooner, but pretending that even our "multiethnic paradise" doesnt have conflict of that sort is retarded
and "conflict" does not necessarily have to = people killing each other, though are you really going to try to pretend to us that multiethnism has a neutral impact or is in fact a source of harmony? even pragmatic progressive dunderheads acknowledge its problems but tell us that we have to "make it work" and we need to "better ourselves" (for god knows why, oh right cheap labour for capitalists and votes for left leaning political parties)
PROPAGANDA BY THE STATE
is it always the state bro
always
markets always good
states always
BAD
r people are noble savages until they come into contact with ~teh state~
ok aer we saying that there are also conflicts between nations as well as within nations
really
nobodys condoning ultra aggressive militaristic nationalism; thank dentists most likely was referring to nationalism in the self-determinist sense (which would fit into the context of what he was saying). nationalism is an umbrella term that encompasses a large number of ideologies underneath it from extreme ultra aggressive palingenetic expansionist movements like nazism to self-determinist ethnic movements like the vlams belang or the orania project in south africa. would what the japanese believe is most prudent for their own society, if believed by a westerner outside of japan be regarded as nationalist? most certainly; but the japanese abandoned the expansionism/aggression a long time ago. meanwhile, the diversity worshipping united states, where no politican would dare call themselves "nationalist" (though 'patriotic', yes) appears to be whipping its own people into yet another war in the middle east. "nationalism" in thank dentists case was probably more of the "leave us alone and we'll leave you alone" kind. sure, you might not find his considerations for what constitutes a nation stomachable or ethical, but not all "nationalisms" have to equate to extreme, expansionistic and oftentimes genocidal movements
not necessarily states but i'd say groups (however defined her) tend to desire to live around themselves and prefer to interact amongst themselves than with other groups