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Yes, infinite geometric series. I think I am just confusing myself.
This is from the unsw school mathematics comp, it is interesting and I would consider it harder 3 unit.

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I already posted up a question before but maybe people forgot, so here it is again:

 
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tywebb, I have already done it, but I didn't want to post a solution because I knew it would be a crazy amount of typing :p

I think somebody else should try posting a solution, this is a thread aimed at MX2 students after all.
 

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No. If you've got a solution, post it up. Don't wait for others to do it or we might be waiting forever.

You don't need to type it. Just scan and upload will do.
 
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Funny how this thread is titled "2012 HSC MX2 Marathon" yet there are hardly any current HSC students participating. How about toning down the difficulty and topic coverage of the questions to encourage participation from HSC students who've only done a term of the course? I'd imagine the questions above would be very intimidating for most of them.
 

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You are right.

Note: People who have posted in this thread are NOT ALLOWED to answer this. I want some fellow extension 2 students to feel welcomed. :)





 

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I don't know how to plot them on here but the third part:
c) All diagonals are equal length (all have modulus 1). They are perpendicular to each other (separation of pi degrees). Therefore the quadrilateral is a square with diagonal length 2 units. Each side has length root 2 so the area of the quad is 2 units squared.

Hooray, first time using latex :).
A few questions: How do you type text without it becoming bunched up and how do you align your equals signs? I tried following the guide but it wasn't working...
 

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How do you type text without it becoming bunched up and how do you align your equals signs?


To align, type without spaces for [ tex ] and [ /tex ]:

[ tex ]\begin{aligned}a)\ z^4&=-1\\ &=\mathrm{c}i\mathrm{s}\; (\pi+2k\pi)\\ &=\mathrm{c}i\mathrm{s}\; (\pi/4),\ \mathrm{c}i\mathrm{s}\; (3\pi/4),\ \mathrm{c}i\mathrm{s}\; (-\pi/4),\ \mathrm{c}i\mathrm{s}\; (-3\pi/4)\end{aligned}[ /tex ]

to get



Although your third line is actually incorrect and so it should be



And suppose I want to type this sentence in latex without it being bunched up.

I'd do it like this:

[ tex ]\text{And suppose I want to type this sentence in latex without it being bunched up.}[ /tex ]

to get

 
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Thanks for that :). How would you do this question:
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I could do it but the second part took me a bit of time whilst in the answers they just wrote it down with no working (past school paper). Am I missing something ridiculously simple?
 

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Thanks for that :). How would you do this question:
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I could do it but the second part took me a bit of time whilst in the answers they just wrote it down with no working (past school paper). Am I missing something ridiculously simple?
Show us the method that you used.
 

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The answer is pi/4. The way I did it was find the gradient of the line passing through the origin that was a tangent to the parabola since that would have the minimum argument of z and then used the fact that the gradient of a line equals the tangent of the argument to get pi/4. There must be some easier way though isn't there?
 

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The answer is pi/4. The way I did it was find the gradient of the line passing through the origin that was a tangent to the parabola since that would have the minimum argument of z and then used the fact that the gradient of a line equals the tangent of the argument to get pi/4. There must be some easier way though isn't there?
Did you sketch the graph? That sometimes gives the answer away especially in complex number questions. However I don't think there is a quicker algebraic method but I could be wrong.
 

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I considered that the arg(z)=tan^(-1)[y/x] and once I had the cartesian equation of the curve I just used calculus. Note that the curve is a parabola that is concave up and that the minimum clearly must occur in the first quadrant
 
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The method I'm using below can be handy sometimes, because it gives me max AND min argument immediately. Of course there are other ways, but it's really just preference.:











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I considered that the arg(z)=tan^(-1)[y/x] and once I had the cartesian equation of the curve I just used calculus. Note that the curve is a parabola that is concave up and that the minimum clearly must occur in the first quadrant
How did you use calculus for this problem?
 
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arg(z)=tan^(-1)[y/x]=tan^(-1)[(x^2+4)/4x]. Let arg(z)=A.
Now, A=tan^(-1)[(x^2+4)/4x]
Differentiate with respect to x and set the derivative equal to 0 in order to find the point at which A is a minimum. You find that a minimum occurs at the point (2,2). Hence it follows that the minimum value for the arg(z)=tan^(-1)[2/2]=tan^(-1)[1]=pi/4
 

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arg(z)=tan^(-1)[y/x]=tan^(-1)[(x^2+4)/4x]. Let arg(z)=A.
Now, A=tan^(-1)[(x^2+4)/4x]
Differentiate with respect to x and set the derivative equal to 0 in order to find the point at which A is a minimum. You find that a minimum occurs at the point (2,2). Hence it follows that the minimum value for the arg(z)=tan^(-1)[2/2]=tan^(-1)[1]=pi/4
It's good to see new methods pop up. I never thought of this. Nice work!

However, It is a wee bit slow. Another problem I can see coming is that you will need to actually show that it is in fact max/min, which can get quite tedious.
 

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yeh lol, i couldnt think of anything else.
 

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