How is UNSW better (2 Viewers)

[VIPPER]

usyd is shit for everything except arts

and arts is shit

truth

 

[nerdasdasd]

truth

False, usyd is good for teaching and pharmacy.

 

[wmatt223]

I'm glad a 10 year old knows more from what he has read from basement azns that have no idea what they are saying on a student forum, than what I know from first hand experience.

+ 1

 

[Shadowdude]

But at USyd the Engineering societies are the ones that have these events whereas, UNSW is for like everyone (ew) and also SHADES.

so basically those events are better because they're exclusive to you engineers only


have fun at that sausage fest

i know you will


but for the 90% of us who aren't homosexual...

 

[effylove]

unsw is better if you've got yellow fever real bad

 

[Lolsmith]

unsw is better if you don't like people getting all huffy and puffy about their views

the last protest that happened here was about 5 socialists and 40 people attending a bbq


the worst you have to deal with here is campus bible study, some dumb fuck socialist posters around uni and that's it

 

[Riproot]

Hence why i said "seem". I'm just going off what i have read on BOS, whirlpool and heard from friends and older students.

BoSers = azns that love UNSW
Whirlpool = Matty G

Good sources.

It's representative of the time it was built, there are buildings of similiar style that were built around the same time at other universities (i.e. Macquarie) but they aren't as prominent as the tower or in the CBD so nobody cares. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

It's in the CBD, you would make something to match the skyline. Hence, ew.

I don't doubt that, but i haven't had any problems with making friends here and there are regular events and societies. The two big societies at UTS are EngSoc and BIG (the IT society).

Well, we have SUEUA(enggsoc), then a different society for every engineering discipline, then women of engineering society, then we have science and all the branches off that, arts and all the branches of thhat, etc.

I only did 2unit, if i remember correctly (HSC Plus is different this year) there were very few bonus points on offer for 2unit and i didn't get a band 6 in it anyway. Even if the cut offs are higher in main round there were places left in what i was applying to during the late and final rounds and they dropped into the high 80s.

You only did 2U and you're doing engg?

Yet you have an opinion on USyd's Engg programme which requires (at least) 3U maths.

Just because one uni has more areas to specialise in than another doesn't instantly mean the other is useless. If that was the case then you'd have to just admit that UNSW > Usyd. All this establishes is that if you want to get in on the latest boom like Petroleum or Mining Engineering or are set on a relatively specific field you are better off going to UNSW or possibly Usyd.

Well, from what the OP was asking for it is better.

It's not me personally saying that Usyd Engineering is a joke, but people definitely do. You seem to be getting really defensive over a couple of sentences i made in a two paragraph post about UNSW vs UTS, if you think Usyd engineering is good then that's good for you - i don't think the OP will suddenly change their mind and it certainly won't stop people from putting the Usyd logo into "Engineering fail" memes. This is just proving that anyone will defend the university they go to and what people have already mentioned about the amount of Asians on BOS, at UNSW and all the praise of UNSW on BOS not being a coincidence.

But you did. You said you thought it was a joke and joked about it with your UTS friends.

But I'm not really defending it just because I go there, I'm defending it because the programs for most engineerings at USyd and UNSW are practically the same (except for aero at USyd which requires higher level maths).

lol

yep

so basically those events are better because they're exclusive to you engineers only


have fun at that sausage fest

i know you will


but for the 90% of us who aren't homosexual...

Well, the engineering stuff is mostly engineering students plus all the girls that want to root them (there's a lot. It's USyd) but others are accepted too.

SHADES is mostly just for gay people but others are accepted.

The science society parties are mostly for science students but other's are accepted too.

Etc.

 

[Shadowdude]

ah that protest


good times

 

[4025808]

UNSW is better if you want to make your own timetable and not be like USYD, where the staff give you a timetable, and you gotta change some stuff yourself. :/

 

[Riproot]

UNSW is better if you want to make your own timetable and not be like USYD, where the staff give you a timetable, and you gotta change some stuff yourself. :/

Nope. I make my own timetable and then just block out the times on the system and click "make my timetable similar" and then get what I want.

I have a day off this semester. ^.^

 

[wootwoot1234]

no. lol

My friend got ~60 for his ATAR, does law at UNSW and gets distinctions. lol
He got ~70 in standard english. lol

Are you serious? The cut-off for law was 99.65 in 2012. How did he get in with an ATAR of ~60?

 

[Riproot]

Are you serious? The cut-off for law was 99.65 in 2012. How did he get in with an ATAR of ~60?

Indigenous Australian brah.

 

[brent012]

BoSers = azns that love UNSW
Whirlpool = Matty G

Good sources.

What source do you suggest then?

Well, we have SUEUA(enggsoc), then a different society for every engineering discipline, then women of engineering society, then we have science and all the branches off that, arts and all the branches of thhat, etc.

Oh sorry i didn't quote what that sentence was in reply to. Was just saying a lot of the UTS events are run by engineering societies too. But since you've brought it up, we don't really have generic societies for each engineering discipline but there are social societies which appeal to the different disciplines and anyone else who wants to join i.e. ProgSoc, RoboSoc, UTS Motorsports.

You only did 2U and you're doing engg?

Yet you have an opinion on USyd's Engg programme which requires (at least) 3U maths.

What relevance is that? Almost all unis suggest 3unit maths as assumed knowledge, but that amounts to nothing. I did a bridging course for 3unit, and all UTS students had to pass a readiness test (i did) or enrol in a Fundamental Maths subject.

Physics is assumed knowledge at most unis for engineering - did you do physics?

 

[4025808]

Nope. I make my own timetable and then just block out the times on the system and click "make my timetable similar" and then get what I want.

I have a day off this semester. ^.^

So they've changed it this year I see...

 

[Riproot]

What source do you suggest then?

First-hand.

Should've gone to different unis and asked questions at open days, looked at course outlines, etc.

Oh sorry i didn't quote what that sentence was in reply to. Was just saying a lot of the UTS events are run by engineering societies too. But since you've brought it up, we don't really have generic societies for each engineering discipline but there are social societies which appeal to the different disciplines and anyone else who wants to join i.e. ProgSoc, RoboSoc, UTS Motorsports.

K whatevs.

Yeah, we have those too, most unis do.

What relevance is that? Almost all unis suggest 3unit maths as assumed knowledge, but that amounts to nothing. I did a bridging course for 3unit, and all UTS students had to pass a readiness test (i did) or enrol in a Fundamental Maths subject.

Physics is assumed knowledge at most unis for engineering - did you do physics?

I just think that before you talk down on other uni's engg programmes you should at least be up to their standards.
You can do fundie maths with engineering? Or would you have to do the regular units the following year?

Physics is only assumed knowledge for the physics courses at uni. I could've done fundamental physics to get me up to speed for Engineering Mechanics, but instead I did Regular which is for people that did physics and got below a 96 ATAR or below 90 in HSC Physics. I did okay in it, and could've done engg mech but I didn't like it so I decided to swap to Chem engg, which you don't really need physics for. So...?
The difference in situation for you and me is that if I had've done physics at my school my ATAR would've been hindered because there was no *proper* teacher, whereas you could've done 3 unit and it would've just been an extra unit and extra knowledge.

So they've changed it this year I see...

yeppers. Changed right at the beginning. It's like they knew I was coming. Haha

 

[4025808]

yeppers. Changed right at the beginning. It's like they knew I was coming. Haha

Not bad, guess USYD is now ramping up their game. How about the server hours? do they still close at around 10pm or is it almost 24/7 like UNSW's?

 

[brent012]

I just think that before you talk down on other uni's engg programmes you should at least be up to their standards.

Fair enough, but im not failing maths at uni so i think it's a bit of a stretch to say im not up to standards. I wouldn't have even bothered with something like Electrical but i can handle the maths i'll need for software (i.e. not a whole lot more than the maths in engineering core).

You can do fundie maths with engineering? Or would you have to do the regular units the following year?

They still have to do all the normal math subjects, i think they do MM1 in second semester and have the option to do MM2 over summer if they wish. It's pretty much for people who did general, mature age students etc. The tutor i had for my bridging course reckoned it was pretty much a slower paced bridging course to get anyone up to speed for first year maths.

Physics is only assumed knowledge for the physics courses at uni. I could've done fundamental physics to get me up to speed for Engineering Mechanics, but instead I did Regular which is for people that did physics and got below a 96 ATAR or below 90 in HSC Physics. I did okay in it, and could've done engg mech but I didn't like it so I decided to swap to Chem engg, which you don't really need physics for. So...?

Yeah ok, sorry was just being a bit of a dick to illustrate how assumed knowledge isn't always neccesary.

The difference in situation for you and me is that if I had've done physics at my school my ATAR would've been hindered because there was no *proper* teacher, whereas you could've done 3 unit and it would've just been an extra unit and extra knowledge.

The situation at my school was strange, we had two 3 unit classes in year 11 and the teachers were trying to get one whole class to drop. They succeeded. Anyway yeah I agree, i should have just stuck with 3unit - if i could redo year 11/12 i would have kept it and put more effort into maths but i can't do that now. I did pretty shit in 2unit even because i was so lazy but that hasn't come back to haunt me too much yet.

 

[Riproot]

Not bad, guess USYD is now ramping up their game. How about the server hours? do they still close at around 10pm or is it almost 24/7 like UNSW's?

I guess.
I think it's 8am-12am but sometimes works over the times given.

Fair enough, but im not failing maths at uni so i think it's a bit of a stretch to say im not up to standards. I wouldn't have even bothered with something like Electrical but i can handle the maths i'll need for software (i.e. not a whole lot more than the maths in engineering core).

yay

They still have to do all the normal math subjects, i think they do MM1 in second semester and have the option to do MM2 over summer if they wish. It's pretty much for people who did general, mature age students etc. The tutor i had for my bridging course reckoned it was pretty much a slower paced bridging course to get anyone up to speed for first year maths.

Ahhh, okay (wot?)

Yeah ok, sorry was just being a bit of a dick to illustrate how assumed knowledge isn't always necessary.

k

The situation at my school was strange, we had two 3 unit classes in year 11 and the teachers were trying to get one whole class to drop. They succeeded. Anyway yeah I agree, i should have just stuck with 3unit - if i could redo year 11/12 i would have kept it and put more effort into maths but i can't do that now. I did pretty shit in 2unit even because i was so lazy but that hasn't come back to haunt me too much yet.

yeah, probs

 

[Caboufram]

Personally, I'd prefer UTS, only for the reason that - CIVIL ENG/ Business (UTS) is shorter than CIVIL ENG/ Commerce (UNSW). Also, there's a TAB nearby. Also, Eng get's a new building in 2014, which looks excellent. Also, save a bus ride per day. Also, in the city.