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Re: HSC 2013 3U Marathon Thread

Thanks for pointing out Spiral - was going to put the 2 but in my huwwy, forgot. Ha ha.

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Turns out I had more than that wrong.
 
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This is a little harder as per request

You may not expand the whole thing hoping for it to fall into place, be creative
 
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This is a little harder as per request

You may not expand the whole thing hoping for it to fall into place, be creative
Making it easier:



 

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you have three dice:

die a has sides: 2,2,4,4,9,9.

die b has sides: 1,1,6,6,8,8.

die c has sides: 3,3,5,5,7,7.

1. what is the average score of die a,b,c respectively.

2. what are the probabilities of:

i. a single roll of a being higher than a single roll of b

ii. a single roll of b being higher than a single roll of c

iii. a single roll of c being higher than a single roll of a.
 

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Re: HSC 2013 3U Marathon Thread

Sy I just did the above question roughly and I got a minimum? Probs did something wrong.
 

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Sy I just did the above question roughly and I got a minimum? Probs did something wrong.
Yes its a typo haha, it is supposed to be a minimum, if you notice the maximum area is actually infinite so yeah there is no real max. Fixing it now
 

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Adding another part, maybe some 2012ers will remember this part if they saw the marathon last year, but here is another way to prove it using the above result:



 

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Since the area of the circular quadrant is a constant, surely the problem boils down to simply minimizing the area of the triangle ORS.
 
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The answer is as one would expect, tau/8.
 

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ugh tau




because apparently tau is a lot more prevalent in formulae so they feel that tau should be the "correct" mathematical constant over pi
 

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ugh tau




because apparently tau is a lot more prevalent in formulae so they feel that tau should be the "correct" mathematical constant over pi
I'm not a fan of it

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Here is one attempt

I'm assuming in your last line its a typo for (as fixed above) the last term on the LHS of your last term used to be
So I'm assuming its:



Its an interesting method, but I will leave it to someone else to say whether its valid or not. I'm not sure whether its entirely valid or not.
 

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I'm assuming in your last line its a typo for (as fixed above) the last term on the LHS of your last term used to be
So I'm assuming its:



Its an interesting method, but I will leave it to someone else to say whether its valid or not. I'm not sure whether its entirely valid or not.
ok
 

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can u please reveal the solution to this question? :D
For that one:

Using that identity, equate the co-efficient of x^2 on both sides:

Now to select 2 x's from the RHS, we need to either pick x from 1 (1+x)^n and 1 x from (1+x)^n, this makes x^2
And the ways we can do this is:

First pick 2 brackets from the n number of brackets:



In each of these brackets, we need to pick the x term, so that is



So we combine both of these to get:



Now we can also get x^2 via picking 1 x^2 from 1 bracket, to do this pick 1 bracket out of the n, and in that bracket pick the x^2 co-efficient:



Add both of these together, and equate co-efficent on LHS

 
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