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Choosing Subjects for Year 11 & 12 (2 Viewers)
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williamdaft
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Definitely do Physics for the engineering field. MX1 and physics are pretty much mandatory for civil, mechanical, aeronautical, etc.
MX2 helps a lot as you will understand some maths better than some students in first yr uni.
You would need to look at the specific courses and see if Physics is assumed knowledge or recommended.
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90+ atar guaranteed even for those whos less study oriented. and 95+ atar guaranteed for the average. 99+ atar guaranteed for the geniuses.
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"Do you do chem, bio and phys.. and 4u... do you matrix" Weldon Chau
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The following is from an article recently published by the Board of Studies, now known as BOSTES, the link is http://news.boardofstudies.nsw.edu....riate-level-of-mathematics-in-Years-11-and-12 (might be worth a read to see what the board has to say about choosing the most appropriate level of maths for year 11 and year 12).
Choosing the most appropriate level of mathematics in Years 11 and 12
When developing syllabuses for Years 11 and 12, the Board of Studies, Teaching and Educational Standards (BOSTES) considers what students do when they leave high school.
For mathematics, BOSTES has three different courses of study for Year 11 students, and five different courses for Year 12 students. The range of courses means that students can assess the content of the courses and select the one (or more) that provide the best mathematics background for their future needs and aspirations.
The Universities Admissions Centre (UAC), which is responsible for the scaling processes used for the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR), advises that students shouldn't choose courses based on what they believe are the likely effects of scaling.
Choices should be based on “interests, demonstrated abilities and the value of courses for future career plans”.
The Preliminary Mathematics General course and the HSC Mathematics General 2 and General 1 courses provide students with the opportunity to develop appropriate understanding and competence in aspects of mathematics for a range of vocational pathways, in careers or in further training.
Study of the HSC Mathematics General 2 course can provide students with a strong foundation for university courses in the humanities, nursing and paramedical sciences.
BOSTES recommends the Mathematics (‘2 Unit’) course as the most appropriate basis for further studies in mathematics in tertiary courses such as in the life sciences, business, finance, technology and education. For students who require substantial mathematics at a tertiary level, BOSTES recommends that they undertake one or both of the Stage 6 Mathematics Extension courses.
The Mathematics Extension 1 course provides students with the opportunity to develop thorough understanding and competence in aspects of mathematics for further studies in mathematics itself, and in such areas as physics, chemistry, engineering, statistics, and computer science.
Students of outstanding mathematical ability should also consider undertaking the Mathematics Extension 2 course. This course provides a strong basis for a wide range of useful applications of mathematics, as well as a strong foundation for the further specialised study of the subject.
Choosing the most appropriate level of mathematics in Years 11 and 12
When developing syllabuses for Years 11 and 12, the Board of Studies, Teaching and Educational Standards (BOSTES) considers what students do when they leave high school.
For mathematics, BOSTES has three different courses of study for Year 11 students, and five different courses for Year 12 students. The range of courses means that students can assess the content of the courses and select the one (or more) that provide the best mathematics background for their future needs and aspirations.
The Universities Admissions Centre (UAC), which is responsible for the scaling processes used for the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR), advises that students shouldn't choose courses based on what they believe are the likely effects of scaling.
Choices should be based on “interests, demonstrated abilities and the value of courses for future career plans”.
The Preliminary Mathematics General course and the HSC Mathematics General 2 and General 1 courses provide students with the opportunity to develop appropriate understanding and competence in aspects of mathematics for a range of vocational pathways, in careers or in further training.
Study of the HSC Mathematics General 2 course can provide students with a strong foundation for university courses in the humanities, nursing and paramedical sciences.
BOSTES recommends the Mathematics (‘2 Unit’) course as the most appropriate basis for further studies in mathematics in tertiary courses such as in the life sciences, business, finance, technology and education. For students who require substantial mathematics at a tertiary level, BOSTES recommends that they undertake one or both of the Stage 6 Mathematics Extension courses.
The Mathematics Extension 1 course provides students with the opportunity to develop thorough understanding and competence in aspects of mathematics for further studies in mathematics itself, and in such areas as physics, chemistry, engineering, statistics, and computer science.
Students of outstanding mathematical ability should also consider undertaking the Mathematics Extension 2 course. This course provides a strong basis for a wide range of useful applications of mathematics, as well as a strong foundation for the further specialised study of the subject.
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I did 3U up until my year 12 half yearly exams (now), my teacher said we'd done about 80% of the course so I've learnt most the stuff.
13 units is manageable in year 11 but it gets hard in year 12.
13 units is manageable in year 11 but it gets hard in year 12.
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Can't agree any less to this post.
I've seen so many people who don't do higher level maths and keep being in the illusion that they can cope with engineering.
I've been to the UTS engineering info day for high school students ( it's a one day event, kinda like a school excursion for future students). The person who gave the talk at that time was a Phd student who has been in uts engineering for 6 years (4 years undergrad+honours+ phd). I remembered him saying that back in high school he did 3u maths, phys, chem, adv eng etc. He said that even when he did 3u maths, it WASN'T ENOUGH for him to cope with first year electrical engineering. He had to end up studying the hsc 4u course by himself, borrowing cambridge 4u books from the library etc.
And I know people who work hard in 4u maths in high school, and still find engineering in uni insanely difficult.
Therefore, if those who attempt high level of maths in high school finds engineering difficult in uni, what makes those people who don't do maths, do general, 2u etc. think that they can cope with university level engineering? They're just lying to themselves through and through. Please wake up!
I've seen so many people who don't do higher level maths and keep being in the illusion that they can cope with engineering.
I've been to the UTS engineering info day for high school students ( it's a one day event, kinda like a school excursion for future students). The person who gave the talk at that time was a Phd student who has been in uts engineering for 6 years (4 years undergrad+honours+ phd). I remembered him saying that back in high school he did 3u maths, phys, chem, adv eng etc. He said that even when he did 3u maths, it WASN'T ENOUGH for him to cope with first year electrical engineering. He had to end up studying the hsc 4u course by himself, borrowing cambridge 4u books from the library etc.
And I know people who work hard in 4u maths in high school, and still find engineering in uni insanely difficult.
Therefore, if those who attempt high level of maths in high school finds engineering difficult in uni, what makes those people who don't do maths, do general, 2u etc. think that they can cope with university level engineering? They're just lying to themselves through and through. Please wake up!