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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine shifty, hizballah fred katyusha rockets into the north of israel, not at the idf outposts. they fired at towns and cities, directly targeting civilians. the areas that they chose to fire from were specifically chosen becuase they were densely populated areas, so they...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine 1948 - war of independance. "Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948. Almost immediately, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Transjordan, and Iraq declared war on the nascent nation. By the conclusion of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Israel had greatly expanded its borders...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine play the ball not the man, you being rude just detracts from the quality of the discussion. if you disagree with my point, fine. but being deprecating is unpleasant, and highly uncalled for. character attacks are for when you don't have an argument, and yours is...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine therea are many different types of military might. if the palestinian insurgents and terrorists were to face the israeli army in conventional warfare they wouldn't last a day. they utilise guerilla and terrorist tactics, and thus the only method to keep the land safe is...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine an invasion is different to an immigration. an invasion involves a show of force. an invasion usually requires an army, not a few hundred thousand starving escapees from a genocide. no, i don't think saying that the country didn't exist is rascist. i'm not denying...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine sam, show me a source of the european jews invading a country that until 1948 was a protectorate or a proxy state. there was nothing to invade. immigration is not invasion. there was no palestinian country, no government, no democratic process. the land was bought from...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine no, the ideal was expressed as a longing for a homeland. i would however be interested in hearing how any country is created without expense to someone? besides which, the land was bought, its not at someones expense. reading the posts on here you would assume the mass of...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine nah eazy, in australia things are cool. but problem is that they were cool in germany and russia too. they were cool in pretty much every country before genocide or pogroms or religious cleansing happened. you dont know where its gonna be next. but to your answers to...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine besides, where do you get off talking about occupation when you live in australia? are in favour of giving the aboriginies their land back? how about just some areas, you know, like most of sydney, but bondi beach will be multinational and transreligious so everyone can...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine okay, look, the jews bought the land from its owners, or recieved it from its owners, so saying that they've stolen your house or something is ridiculous. if you're going to use an analogy, its more like you're renting a house and someone else buys the house. of course...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine tempco, the anti-semitic (anti-jewish) = anti - zionist argument requires a flow of points. the belief begins with a few axioms, that if are accepted, then the satement is true, and if not, then you wont think so. 1) do you believe that the jews were in clear and...
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    ok, so the new term is israeli only roads. like how you need authorisation to enter a country that you dont belong to?
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    well, your name is hothshot, your a guy, n your pic is clearly a blonde girl. so i can either assume you think shes hot, you want to be her, or your depiction of the cultural stereotype positions you as a mysogonist who typifies women into two categories, and only deems one of them beautiful...
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    if he fucks moms, and is a transexual, then is he a guy or a girl? somehow i think this post has degenrated into childishness.
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    haha depends on who is defining the exile. there are jews who think that we can only have a state of israel once god has returned to us, the temple has been rebuilt and the messiah has come. there are other who feel that we can have the state now. i think the majority believe in the state of...
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    wait, s1mo, exile? religiously, its a possible definition and there are plenty of jews who follow that. but i dont think we're in exile. i mean, we live there right? which land was expanded into that wasnt theirs? i'm just not sure what you're referring to specifically.
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    so you think that kidnapping people is a just reaction? then why complain when israel takes palestinians prisoner? what would israel have done to provoke hizballah?
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    weren't provoked? so the whole kidnapping of their soldiers was part of the jews evil plan to invade lebanon right? and i really think you have a problem, or a psychosis or something. or maybe you're just a little guy, and feel a need to play with the big boys. but either way, i find your...
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    sleep well. till another time i guess :D
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    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    why are they illegal? "During the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel captured the West Bank from the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan". pretty much the definition of theirs.
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