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the most recent disengagement plan is not a peace agreement, its a disengagement plan. the most recent peace offer was to arafat, and was for 97% of the so called "occupied" territories. which really are the territories that were lost because they kept starting wars and kept losing them, but...

onebytwo, what israeli occupation? israel has offered this land in return for peace constantly, posted previously are examples. always refused by the palestinians. somehow i dont think this is as much about land as it is about jews living in israel at all. mm, what does israel have to...

uh uh uh, thats not a UN sanction, it is an american and israeli sanction, although im happy to be proven wrong if you can produce the un resolution outlining their stance. im pretty sure it isnt a un sanction (99%). and the un have put sanctions on iran, and iran has flaunted them, the main...

i think my cynisism is well justified. HAMAS is in a position where they could end the conflict in a second if they halted armed warfare. its not resistance, its aggression. to quote something ive heard for a while, "if HAMAS put down their weapons, there would be no war. if israel put down...

to be honest, i dont think they want to talk to themselves as much as they just want to talk, and distract, and cause hatred and death. i'm completly cynical of anything positive that HAMAS can do except commit a peaceful political suicide, and abdicate their position to a govt. that will look...

which is very disturbing, and i agree with you fully, or in as much that if they aren't mainstream views, they are met with no (real) condemnation from within the communites like in other religions.

willing is not sending homicide bombers onto busses. not calling for your enemies death at every phrase. building up your infrastructure and trading peacefully. HAMAS has no intentions of this.

they dont acknowledge that there is anyone to negotiate with. if israel agrees to go to the table with them, it grants them a legitimacy that is a precedent that insures her eventual destruction. HAMAS is a terrorist government, with pretty much the same ideals of Nazi germany, and the same...

negotiate what? i havent put words in their mouth, they put the words on their charter. israel has repeatedly said that they are more than willing to negotiate if HAMAS will acknowledge that the state of israel exists. they dont, and yet they still call for its destruction. the reason they say...

hopefully the ordinary moslem who goes to mosque has the same reaction that an ordinary christian or jew would have hearing their priest/rabbi/whatever preaching that women are meat, or that they should kill everyone.

i did read it, and i discarded the validity of the claim due to their beleifs, past experience, and common sense. to a radical islamic organisation, occuped lands are any that were ever islamic, especially the holy land of israel. therefore withdrawing from all occupied lands means...

i didnt see it like that, tho i can see where you're coming from. im just hoping that if they feel that the imam's views aren't good, then they'll eventually ban them from mosques. i can't really see it happening, but its a hope

yeah, but they're lost cases. the prejudice that exists in their minds will always exist in their minds. but by removing it from a public forum, you stop it from spreading to the younger generations and propagating.

oh definately, i dont think its conclusive, but it shows at least some sense of either disapproval, or even a feigned sense of embarrasment on the part of the community. first step, ban them from public. second step, ban them from other institution, third step, ban them from influencing young...

but there's the problem, they weren't being honest in the media. they were saying one thing in their sermons in arabic, and another in english to the media. its a start.

what zionist USSR, other than mentioning a few names, you havent shown a zionist majority within the govt. second of all, your only point hence is that a human rights violator supported israel at one time. has it escaped you attention that russia is one of israels largest condemners at this...

see, a concentration camp is a very different thing form a refugee camp, and your misuse of the term is a barefaced lie. the reason the palestinians are in camps is that firstly, their government sucks arse, and would rather pay the mothers of their nation money to send their kids to blow...

israel's gulags and concentration camps? where? point just one out on a map. i find your comparison of israel to the ussr and to nazi germany sickening. just because a nation was advocated by what you term a fascist state doesnt make it one. besides, im really wondering where you get this...

finally, a step in one positive direction by the muslim community in combatting hatred. much applause to the LMA.

jordan, you have to wonder what that is really worth. the far more liberal FATAH movement made "promises" of negotiation and halting of millitary activities in the past, and they came to nothing. secondly, why should israel negotiate with HAMAS. they call for its destruction. hows that...