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  1. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    no, i'm making it very simple jordan. they voted, for whatever reason, for a government that not only condones, but encourages the brutal genocide of jews, and the destruction of israel. they either sympethise with this view, or are happy to ignore it. thats damn simple. people around the...
  2. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    and i still want a serious display of palestinian peace-mongering. i have yet to find any.
  3. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    similar in what way? you've made that claim before, but never substantiated it. its an easy thing to say, much harder to justify. plus, it may be that i'm not looking hard enough, but i've yet to come across any serious condemation of any palestinian terrorist action. at all. and they can...
  4. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    ok, man, missing the point again. didnt say what HAMAS was capable of, just what they believed in. thei capabilities are not somehting i can judge. but they believe in its destruction, and are doing everything they can to bring it about. the un can mention the heinous crimes comitted...
  5. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    the constitution of HAMAS calls for the death of jews and the destruction of israel a ridiculous ammount of times. some quotes... "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of...
  6. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    fine, they dont see it as a terrorist organisation. but they do see it as an organisation that promises the eventual death of every jew, everywhere. so then the majority of them support that. do you agree with that definition rather?
  7. J

    Lobby group seeks election of Muslim MP

    this might have been said, but i havent seen it. on the very principal of democracy i support any muslim's right to run for parliament, at any level, be it council or prime-minister. but i do think that in a truly multi-cultural society, we shouldnt need to label our representatives and...
  8. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    "What reason exactly is the UN biased? Considering it is committee that is focused on trying to resolve World Issues in variety of manners." well considering that im sure blowing yourself up on a bus filled with innocent civilians contravenes the geneva convention, and almost every human...
  9. J

    Israel and Palestine

    just questioning a definition political exile has used in the past, calling the USSR a fascist zionist state, and israel one by definition. i was merely pointing out an incongruity in an argument pertaining to the nature of both the government (past and roesent) of Russia who were the sovereigns...
  10. J

    Israel and Palestine

    political, just a question. the technical definition of a fascist is An adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views. the USSR was notoriously socialist, the name itself stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, socialism being a notoriously left wing ideology. so how do...
  11. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    israel's contribution to peace... In 1937, the Peel Commission was set up to deal with the land dispute between the Jews and Arabs, coming up with a compromise, which would divide the remaining land on the western side of the Jordan into two independent states. The Jews accepted the plan and...
  12. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    actually no, i'm not attempting in any way to discredit the un. just mentioning that there does exist bias within it, for whatever reason. and jordan, if a majority votes for a terrorist organisation to lead them, doesn't that indicate that the majority support terrorism?
  13. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    oh, and an example of UN bias, "Twenty-six percent of all Security Council meetings between 1948 and the 1991 Madrid Conference dealt with the Arab-Israeli conflict. The U.N. Security Council passed a total of 175 resolutions. Seventy-four were neutral. Four were against the perceived interests...
  14. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    hotshot, to name a few countries that go against un laws, "palestine", iran, sudan and indeed most of africa including zimbabwe, russia has, china has, north korea has, in fact, its probably gonna be a much shorter list who hasnt.
  15. J

    UN envoy hits Israel 'apartheid'

    palestinains are not citizens of israel, of the country or the state, they have a seperate, and indeed seperatist government and now have their own land. "He points to what he describes as "unashamed discrimination" against Palestinians in favour of Israeli settlers." but hasn't raised the...
  16. J

    Fight for Islamic state, Aussies told

    isn't it just. btw, off topic, but if tottenham plays man u, who do you support?
  17. J

    Fight for Islamic state, Aussies told

    you're right s1m0, some israelis do it too. not a justification. thats the "he hit me, so i hit him" that continues this nonsense. oh and Armenikum, the reason its still going on is cos people like you sit around and say, oh well, lets just leave it, or condone it, cos its happened before. you...
  18. J

    Fight for Islamic state, Aussies told

    gee i dunno, typecasting people stereotypically because of their race, gender, relgion etc. is the root of evil, and you justify and in essence are an accessory to a culture of hate and violence that just re-evolves with time. i think thats probably a bad thing Armenikum, don't you?
  19. J

    Fight for Islamic state, Aussies told

    zeek, in essence, they have done both. they have closed israel off from the palestinian terrorists, and closed the palestinians threats off from israel. the comparisson wiht the wall is rather than your neighbours, your flatmate living in the same house as you, do you lock yourself in your room...
  20. J

    Fight for Islamic state, Aussies told

    a truer word never spoken onebytwo. unfortunately it seems to be a conflict that will exist until neither side is left standing at this rate. s1mo, i hope you realise that by stereotyping all jews, or all israelis as shifty, you give voice to anti-semitic propaganda, or whatever you choose to...
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