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  1. Cookie182

    UNSW vs UWA vs Uni Melb

    At my uni, University of Wollongong You can do a Bachelor of Math and Finance (BMathFin) and you can do it at the advanced level- BMathFin(adv.). Pretty much takes you beyond the norm commerce finance subjects into stochastic calculus and modelling pricing etc all the things ur after + bit of...
  2. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I often just be ridiculous and tell them I am God. This is a test of their faith. If they run, Satan will chase them. Here me roar!
  3. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Exactly. Growing up I often tried to take on a variety of theistic thoughts- but my mind overall just will not let me except such thoughts as belief. You can not force yourself to. Also, if God is true and obviously he then creates these thoughts for us and has wired us in that way- then it is...
  4. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    YouTube - Dr. Zakir Naik - Does God exist? really, really needs critiquing lets use these arguments for now on as a basis of debate
  5. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I have to go God bless
  6. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Quoting Pirsig: "For example, it's stated over and over again that computer circuits exhibit only two states, a voltage for "one" and a voltage for "zero". That's silly! Any computer-electronics technician knows otherwise. Try to find a voltage representing one or zero when the power is off! The...
  7. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Perhaps I should have said- someone give me an objective normative ethic? What your saying is yes true- but it is a factual statement as opposed to a moral statement- like if i substitute your saying: It is moral to believe that the morality of X is subjective?
  8. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    For interest, budding philosophers of BOS, someone give me an objective moral truth And yes, Kfunk i enjoyed your thoughts on Descartes- it certainly is complicated. Kinda brings up in many ways the idea that if you cease to 'think' are you in existence? Depends on how one views "I am". I...
  9. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Well, I'd like to thank the member for Forks for their question, let me firstly begin by saying: If you read through the last two pages, even Iron has agreed faith has an irrational basis. Atheist's pride themselves purely on rationality- so your argument then becomes, is it irrational to...
  10. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    See, I find such beauty in this discussion- that even two anonymous, intelligent human beings such as ourselves can come to a most elegant agreement- that the discussion for us ends there. I argued it was irrational- you agreed, there is nothing more to say on that matter. Beyond arguing in the...
  11. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Another question of interest to the theist- if we are all "God's" creatures, should other animals be given the chance for salvation? Where does their soul go when they die? My religious friend said only 'persons' can accept Christ and go to Heaven, but what about my very intelligent dog or a...
  12. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I'd see it that religious people are essentially operating through classic utilitarianism- they see their moral codes as maximising some yardstick (happiness/preference/social justice eg- take your pick). Is it inherently selfish? Well, most seem to promote that their ethical position comes from...
  13. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I fundamentally feel your ignoring mine and most importatnly the very valid, logical points I have raised. As essentially, you have no answers left to give.
  14. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    lol see we can not go further in discussion at this point Iron- your brain actually won't allow it. You’re set in your ideology. The only way I could change your thoughts would be through use of Neuro-lingusitic Processing or deep level hypnosis. In bold, you’re ignoring the whole premise of...
  15. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    The predicted response- but this leads to an ad infinitum argument on your behalf. But before that, how can anything be 'reasoned' to be beyond reason ? Lol you can name "atrocities" which utilised science- but science itself is not the ideology , it is simply an explanatory tool. Scientific...
  16. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    See I find that a non-sensical and irrational statement of reasoning. If you were on a criminal trial- and the judge took a leap of faith (despite no evidence) that you were guilty- a movement purely based on the phenomena your labeling intuition , then you would instantly appeal- given that...
  17. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I guess to simplify, my argument was swaying away from the root question of the thread: "Does God exist?”. I think that rationally it is at best a logical hypothesis to propose- I have no issue with that (no scientist can say it isn’t, as you rightly pointed out, despite the evolution of man's...
  18. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    In response to that, I'd say that the only rule we are accepting is that any hypothesis needs testing. The rules of physics before us at the waterfall, explaining why the water actually flows or falls, the chemistry behind it's makeup etc all came through hypothesis's and...
  19. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I can see your point there Iron, in some way your argument would have to suggest that biologically we can never have 100 percent certainty? Because, if we did have 100 percent certainty in what we know (which is what we see), then religion would never have been invented in the first place. That...
  20. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Well I appreciate that and will work on it refining it, but two brains are better then one. As an atheist yourself, perhaps you would like to extend on the logical points I made (you can disregard stuff of course) and perhaps we can derive at a conclusion. I guess you are right; I never set out...
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