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  1. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Then let's assume that is all NLP is- if this brings someone out of "depression" (permenantly) and into an all round happier state of being, then what does that say about the 'chemical nature' of depression? Many user's are posting as though it is a permenant fixture that you effectively...
  2. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Do you believe in hypnosis? Also, I imagine 'Empirical Evidence' in such subjective areas of human emotion/state/behaviour is hard to come by. I mean, with what units could we reliably measure how someone 'feels'. I mean, is it quite possibe to say that if a person is motivated through NLP to...
  3. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    I can see Tom Cruise popping up soon: "See Matt, you don't know the history of psychiatry, I do." For those who don't get the joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwAaHbmF5S4
  4. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Two points of contention, 1) In reply to Kfunk, obviously I lack your medical knowledge and won't attempt to refute the "chemical balance" argument (my attempt would only be futile and an exercise in stupidity at best). However, my opinion in regards to depression became shaped through various...
  5. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Just a bit of my thoughts- Whether you achieve it through spirituality/learning/experience, there is a tremendous power that comes through knowing who you are. Identity was mentioned earlier. When you know who you are, have clearly defined ethics/values and know your intrinsic self-worth (and...
  6. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    I actually will agree with you Iron on this one. I think religion/spirituality has great potential to help people out of depression.
  7. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Good post. +ve repp'ed. Oh, i need to spread some rep.
  8. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    Prozac- "it's like Christianity without the tears"
  9. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    SnowFox, I am very curious. I'm not completely denying the existence of clinical depression, but are you saying that it is not curable? And furthermore only manageable through drugs? I'm just wanting you to clarify your position here.
  10. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    So what's the answer- tell yourself your life will never be any happier and operate from that belief frame? That'll certainly work... Or just take psychotics and put a shield around it?
  11. Cookie182

    The legitimacy of depression as an illness.

    See that's where the problem begins. Now you have given your mental state a label- and you act through this label, as though feeling constantly down is not your fault, but due to some 'external reason' or sickness. If you believe it is out of your control, then where is the incentive to become...
  12. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I want 4 wives. Which religion allows me such comforts?
  13. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Wow, i love life. I make fun with every minute. Sure exams and work get hard, but I'm a person who enjoys people and generally mixes well. I adore every moment I have on this precious Earth. The probability of me being born, nether lone in such a great country was astoundingly low. You have...
  14. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Where did I say I seek ultimate power? Did you infer that by me saying I'd help others? So what, you can say that as Christian purely because you use God's name as a scapegoat? Well, to me, my life is the most valuable thing in my reality and I hope for your sake your's is too. We live on EARTH...
  15. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    But you also shouldn't fear taking a legitimate 'stance' on an issue either, if you felt it needed challenging. Additionally, on morality. I respect you Iron as a fellow man. It's one of my values I have set for myself. I wouldn't steal from you, have sex with your wife, cause you or loved...
  16. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    No one has ever justified why sex is wrong either- from a moral point of view, between two people willing to have it? I mean, if you take the standpoint that your harming no-one with such a private act, JUSTIFY to me why 'fornication' is evil?
  17. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    My goals in life are actually to help people in what ever way I can. Sure, it's selfish on some level, I have to accept that, since i reject pure altruism. But I think that you are not a better person then me due to your Catholisim. I justify actions only to myself- in many ways I like the...
  18. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    See, your an atheist when it comes to Judaism or Islam or any otherreligion. You go back to being as rational as me. You just won't allow it for Christianity. Why? A better question to ask would be: Is there ANY PART of Christian ideology you do not agree with? I mean, can you take a step out...
  19. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    Or the million's of evangelicalists in the states, openly preaching hatred towards gays because of passage's from Corinthians etc Or Jews and Muslims killing each other Or the Irish Or Christian's condemning child-rape victims for abortions Or Muslim’s EXECUTING girls who were...
  20. Cookie182

    Does God exist?

    I'll put it out there: My major problem The fact that 'religion' (as shown here) supersedes spirituality. I have no problem with formulating some kind of spiritual belief- something INTERNAL that gives you comfort in regards to your position in this world- morally, where you come from, your...
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