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Well medically, it's still a foetus, from 8 weeks to right up until the moment it's born. When it comes to the point of "what stage does abortion become inappropriate?", while it's been done to death, I think the consensus in the medical community is 22-28 weeks, after which thalamic...

Um, my comment meant that you didn't understand what I said. I wasn't calling you ironic, I was indicating that you were unable to detect the irony in my statement. Need a shovel for the hole you're digging? Correct.

And also "Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or does and what one means or what is generally understood." Which means your...

Clearly your irony detector is currently faulty, my dear.

Gee thanks, that makes me feel SO much more valued, Defence Personnel Minister Fuckwit.

This.

I'm not sure if this has been said before, because I CBF'd reading the entire thread, but perhaps, shock, one of the reasons that the sciences/maths scale so well is because they're friggin difficult.

Yeah, but you're using it as a criticism against science, for not answering the "why" questions. Which itself begs the question: why do there have to be "why" questions?

Why must there be a "why"? Bit arrogant tbh

To give credit where credit is due, the Catholic church does support evolution (mostly).

The justice system is for justice and rehabilitation, not punishment. At least, it should be, unless we've forgotten the old adage "an eye for an eye.." He's dying of a horrible, horrible cancer. His sentence was to keep other people safe, and to prevent him from reoffending (is that not what...

Except for, um, hunt deer. Shepherds != hunting dogs.

Your presupposition, however, is flawed - that the requirements of life are something that had to line up in a row for us to exist. While it's true that we never would have existed without them, individually they are not that unbelievable and governed by simple laws: expansion of the universe...

Why not? You think that in the far-flung future, spread across the galaxy, we still won't know the answers to how and why?

He's dying of terminal prostate cancer. I'd say that's punishment enough.

The likelihood of us being here is an irrelevant question, because it has already occured. Any probabilities you seek to put on it (and then use them to argue "Hey, we're so improbable, we must have been created!") are meaningless. Statistically improbable things don't mean they're impossible...

Oh really? What sources do you have to back up that claim, other than the Bible? Contemporary, primary sources preferred, please.

Cuts too close to the quick, does it? Do I hit your sensitive little nerves?

Lol okay, we'll accept the truth as you see it just because you tell us to

But you're using another abstract concept (God) to define the abstract concept (sin).