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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus <3 101 Atheist Quotes.

A somewhat biased summary of the Lennox v Shermer debate. Dan tells me it's rather accurate: http://mycolleaguesareidiots.com/archive/2008/08/24/362.aspx

Please don't tell me you're equating homosexuality to pedophilia, necrophilia, and the like.

I actually think this is a good idea. I have a friend that used to do assisted tutoring work with some Islander kids; their parents didn't care about their education, so they didn't either, she said. Maybe this will help change that apathy, even if it's sort of a twisting of the arm behind the...

While I don't regard sex with an animal - that would not otherwise physically harm it - as inherently cruel, it doesn't mean that I don't regard things like sexual torture on an animal as such. You're talking to the person who believes keeping cetaceans and other large, intelligent predators...

Well THAT I would call cruel, indeed.

What, they tie them up and strap a vibrator to their arse? Shit like that? I think that'd be cruel on a human, not just an animal.

And humans. In fact, you may not know this, but GPs encourage women to pee after sex to void the bacteria that has been pushed into their urethra by male thrusting. TMI, but true. Sex isn't particularly hygenic with humans either, especially by your standards. You are possibly the most...

Because it doesn't necessarily impinge on their ability to produce young with their own species. A male discovering a female of his own species in heat? I find it difficult to believe that in that case they would reject that female in favour of another species, simply because he would react...

Why would it necessarily be unhygenic? One assumes that a person having sex with an animal would ensure that both are relatively clean to start off with. Heck, even horse breeders are scrupulous (to the point of overkill) about the hygiene of their animals. You seem to be under the...

Not to mention that monogamy is not necessarily the default setting for human beings. For both males and females, outward monogamy is the default setting only because we necessarily have to invest a huge amount of time into our offspring; thus female ovulation is hidden. However, that doesn't...

Physically? Probably not, as long as the right amount of "preparation" was done (as with any human), and as long as the size proportions are.. acceptable. An animal such as a dog is quite clearly able to defend itself if it felt the need, and in many times, I suppose, that is not the case...

Dude, are you insane? First of all, the "oh let them have one litter" argument is entirely false, as even that one litter hugely increases the risk of ovarian and uterine cancer. Second, animals don't feel sexual "desire" like we do. They don't pine for it, and they ONLY want it when their...

SIV = Simian (primate) Immunodeficiency Virus. It's where we got it from; SIV has "transferred" to humans quite a few times separately, starting around the 1800s. So no, not polio vaccine. And, ah, condom?

No, no, and again, no. SIV was transferred to humans when tribal Africans started hacking apart and eating great apes. EATING, not fucking.

Also, Iron, what do you say about the new technology being developed in which a sperm is not required for conception, i.e. "making a baby" out of two eggs? Travesty beyond belief, or a scientific "miracle" allowing lesbian couples to have a child of their own, borne of bonafide love and joy?

What if those children were not conceived out of real, bona fide love? I.e. a child of rape? All of your arguments fall down in swift order; are you noticing this?

We're.. not on top of every food chain imaginable, unless we've suddenly found protection against all known viruses and bacteria. And I'm pretty sure if you throw a human in with a chimp, the chimp would make sausages out of you.

I'm not kidding. And I don't blame you; it's a hard idea to accept, that most of our behaviour is an evolved form of what we inherited from our ancestors. We really are just another species of chimpanzee.

So you're against artificial insemination using donor sperm or eggs for infertile heterosexual couples as well?