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  1. JonathanM

    Yes, I'm volunteering in the army

    Yes, I'm volunteering in the army
  2. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    I'm going on army training exercises today so I can't continue responding to this thread for the moment, I'm sure you appreciate how long it takes to respond to large posts, but happy to continue the debate when I get back. I'd particularly like to address a few big flaws in the post you've just...
  3. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Israel has pretty much ended the blockade of Gaza. Ball is in Hamas's court. Watch them throw it away. Civilian goods expected to flow into Gaza
  4. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Yeah, so where is the thread on Rwanda, on the countless other issues? The answer is that there aren't any, and that's my point - everyone is focused on Israel. Do you honestly ever read what it is you're writing? Yeah, 9/11 attracted huge attention - it was a terrorist attack which...
  5. JonathanM

    Thanks Jared, good to see you back on BoS.

    Thanks Jared, good to see you back on BoS.
  6. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    I was actually in favor of at least half your post - the Elders of Zion jibe was a joke, my fault for not wording it properly to be represented as such, should have put a smilie in xD.
  7. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship There are some good points in that, apart from the nonsense about the "rabbinic right." Also, that post was made just over a day after the actual event, when the world was in the height of it's Israel bashing as the...
  8. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    There is an internationally recognised method of telling whether legitimate criticism of Israel has crossed over into anti-Semitic rhetoric, using the platform of anti-Zionism as a cloak for traditional anti-Semitism. It's called the 3 D's - Delegitimisation, Demonisation and finally, what we're...
  9. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    I didn't believe this issue was about Nuclear weapons? I'm not a "my country right or wrong" supporter of Israel - sure, I love the country ridiculously, that seems obvious, otherwise I wouldn't have joined the army. But my stance on the Nuclear issue is another matter altogether. I'm well...
  10. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    That's complete nonsense. First and foremost, those who are against Israel often cite the issue of "proportion" and how statistics attained from conflicts such as Cast Lead are often disproportionate in favor of the Israelis. And here you're trying to compare the death of 9 mercenaries with...
  11. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    How many mercenary 'activists' were killed by Israel? 9. How many innocent civilians did NATO kill in Afghanistan in same the week the flotilla incident occurred? Over 140. I'm happy to argue over the semantics of the whole operation, but before you even consider that, you have to consider the...
  12. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship This is only one photo, there are other pieces of evidence. Stun grenades, un-used flaming cocktails, pepper-spray, combat knives as well as the stolen hand guns. You make a very valid point when you say there are...
  13. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship Ha, you have an inflated ego about your join date? You're pathetic. It's not a pro-Israel point of view, the 'activists' have reverted their figures to 10 as well. And don't try to pretend you care about those...
  14. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship Shows how juvenile you are that you make a discussion of this issue into a game. I guess you need to do that to bring it down to your thinking terms. The only point you made in that post, and I don't think it needs to be...
  15. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship No it wasn't, that's a complete fabrication, and if it was, not on an official level. The boats weren't allowed to dock in Cyprus, that's why they were delayed in the first place. And anyway, what country relies on...
  16. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship Ok, so first become literate and learn to read news reports. Your statistics are factually incorrect and clearly aggrandised for the strength of your argument. Most world news agencies are citing 10 dead, not 19...
  17. JonathanM

    IDF Flotilla Incident Official Thread

    Re: Jesus fucking Christ - IDF massacres Turks on board humanitarian ship There are only three things people really need to take into account here: 1. That for all the world knew, the ships could have been carrying anything as far as the Israelis were concerned - they had the right to search...
  18. JonathanM

    Turkey to initiate reform of Islam

    An admirable country, but there have been significant moves towards a more religious state (like the mass protests over the past few years to remove the ban on head scarves), furthermore, the clue to the growing extremist element in the country and the growing influence over it by other Arab...
  19. JonathanM

    Alleged teacher-student affair shocks schoo

    Alleged teacher-student affair shocks school Alleged teacher-student affair shocks school Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
  20. JonathanM

    Rudds overhaul of the Health System

    You're clearly not a Victorian, otherwise you wouldn't be saying that. The states represent the different opinions and needs of particular parts of the country, e.g. the dispute over the Murray Darling Basin and Victoria's refusal to participate with the Federal government because of the...
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