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2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subject. (3 Viewers)

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Engineering Studies is a gargoylish leviathan of a subject. I strongly suggest you avoid this torturous educational pathway. Not only is it full of content which won't be asked (like most content subjects) but it includes mathematics which is considered to be more difficult than 2U (by word of mouth). To back this all up, it scales horrifically in comparison to it's difficulty. A prime example of this can be that the state mark (can't recall which year) was a 91... A flippin' 91?! other respectable subjects who hit state marks such as Chemistry, Bio and mathematics of any unit are hitting around 98-100 for state marks... And the scaling for those is of the highest.

Avoid this subject, heed my warning you poor students.

Before I get flamed for being dumb or retarded or some shit, I think we can all agree that Engineering Studies deserves better scaling.

/rantdone.

Join the bandwagon my fellow cohorts, begin the revolution :)
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

Yeh well, engineering studies didnt run at my school... so im guessing thats a good thing ?
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

You are a lucky man my friend. Every life I can save sees me another brighter day :)
 

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91 is a good mark.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

Very true, I'm just saying for the difficulty of the subject is scales horrendously.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

Very true, I'm just saying for the difficulty of the subject is scales horrendously.
Wait until you do real engineering at uni (if you do). First year 'engineering' is about 10x harder and it only gets harder after that.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

scaled*

And thank god that's not the degree I'm going for hah :l
 

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Wait until you do real engineering at uni (if you do). First year 'engineering' is about 10x harder and it only gets harder after that.
I have two friends who absolutely sucked at engineering in HSC, but that's because they never had the time to really learn the mechanics content, meanwhile, one of them are doing electrical and the other is doing petroleum... I assure you, in uni, you will learn the stuff because that's your prime focus. If you want to do engineering in Uni, you're better off doing 2-3unit and physics or chemistry depending on the area of engineering you want to enter, but i'd choose both if i could go back.

The OP is correct, horrible subject, because of its scaling, i'm pretty much stuffed
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

Yeh well, engineering studies didnt run at my school... so im guessing thats a good thing ?
haha
I remember when you were angry because there wasn't enough numbers to run the class lol
 

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Getting a 90 in engineering is quite easy i believe. Do remember the state rank was 91 raw not aligned. And with minimal study you should be able to do most calculations... that is if you do physics/chemistry (there is a decent amount of crossover) and have some good maths skills. All that being said, the scaling is just painful.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

Yeah, I told a lot of people not to do engineering studies too, because of the above reasons.
 
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A big problem with Engineering Studies is that there is barely any teachers that actually know the subject. Most just read from a book etc.
 

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but it includes mathematics which is considered to be more difficult than 2U (by word of mouth).
Haha, God no. The mathematics is extremely simple and easy. It's just the interpretation that screws with some of the people that do the course.
 

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A big problem with Engineering Studies is that there is barely any teachers that actually know the subject. Most just read from a book etc.
Well what do you expect. Those who have engineering degrees are not exactly lining up to be high school teachers (except as a second backup career or change of pace lifestyle change etc) as the money is simply far worse than what they could earn by working as an engineer.

Even if you got degree qualified engineers to teach it, they would only be fully knowledgeable on one or two areas. Civil engineering is pretty different from Electrical engineering which is pretty different from Mechanical & Aeronautical engineering etc.
 

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Be warned future HSC'ers.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

im doing this subject for yr 12, after i read what you said above. im like GOD HELP ME :((
 

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Honestly man you'll do well if you actually try at the get-go. I kind of left the subject til last minute and focused on English and Math, big mistake. You got dis boi.
 

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Re: 2013 HSC Students - heed my/our warning regarding Engineering Studies as a subjec

I did engineering this year and loved every moment of it. Who cares if it scales rubbish, imo its still a very interesting subject.
 

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Who cares if it scales rubbish.
Hmm I don't know, maybe my ATAR cares? You know that thing which contributes to your future?
 

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Hmm I don't know, maybe my ATAR cares? You know that thing which contributes to your future?
What is doing a subject you don't enjoy?

If you enjoy a subject you tend to perform better, and consequently your ATAR

I'm with gr_111 on this, loved the subject, and required minimal studying due to the excessive overlap with Chemistry, Physics and 4U math.

This is one of those subjects where your not tested on what you can memorize, but more-so how you can solve problems with what you've learnt, after-all their trying to interest future engineers with adequate skills, I mean cmon 'scope of the profession' in each module.
But you cant eliminate the memorizing out of tests and in virtue your materials are your best friend, and subbing numbers into equations and basic techniques aren't hard to master.

TLDR: ES isn't that bad, go for it..
 

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