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Adam and Eve or Evolution? (2 Viewers)

Adam and Eve or Evolution?

  • Creationism

    Votes: 64 15.5%
  • Evolution

    Votes: 255 61.6%
  • Both

    Votes: 68 16.4%
  • don't know

    Votes: 27 6.5%

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chaldoking said:
The Conservation of Angular momentum - if a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment (which the big bang would have been) all the fragments that fly off will spin the same direction, beause the outside is moving faster than the inside.

If the universe began as a 'big bang' would you explain to me why two of the planets are spinning backwards (Venus, Uranus)? Not only that at least 6 of the moons are spinning backwards and some travel backwards around their planet. Why?
just, wow. Your idea of the big bang is a spinning object breaking apart?

chaldoking said:
Second law of thermodynamics: “Everything tends toward disorder.” What about Earth and the Sun? So is my great great grandpa bacteria?
timeframe.
 

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chaldoking said:
Every major branch of science was founded by a Creationists.

Johannes Kepler - founder of modern astronomy:
"God is the kind creator who brought forth nature out of nothing."

Robert Boyle - founder of modern chemistry:
Wrote about his faith in God and love for God's word.
Started London School of Philosophy.
Boyle's Law.

Isaac Newton:
Believed in a literal 6 day creation.
Argued against Atheism.
  • Bacon
  • Kepler
  • Galileo
  • Pacal
  • Boyle
  • Newton
  • Linnaeus
  • Faraday
  • Babbage
  • Joule
  • Kelvin
  • Mendel
  • Pasteur
  • Lister
  • Carver
  • von Braun
All Scientists - All Creationists
*cough*

you know who else is a creationist? Senator John McCain
 
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HalcyonSky said:
just, wow. Your idea of the big bang is a spinning object breaking apart?



timeframe.
No of course not. Nothing really means nothing. The Big Bang was the collection of matter into a small dot and this dot came from nothing and here we are.
 

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chaldoking said:
No of course not. Nothing really means nothing. The Big Bang was the collection of matter into a small dot and this dot came from nothing and here we are.
collection of matter into a small dot?

sorry but do you know anything?
 

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chaldoking said:
Second Law of Thermodynamics: What about the Earth and the Sun? Now?
really wish pics worked in this forum

Senator John McCains face is the only thing that can reflect how much of a moron you are
 

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chaldoking said:
Every major branch of science was founded by a Creationists.

Johannes Kepler - founder of modern astronomy:
"God is the kind creator who brought forth nature out of nothing."

Robert Boyle - founder of modern chemistry:
Wrote about his faith in God and love for God's word.
Started London School of Philosophy.
Boyle's Law.

Isaac Newton:
Believed in a literal 6 day creation.
Argued against Atheism.
  • Bacon
  • Kepler
  • Galileo
  • Pacal
  • Boyle
  • Newton
  • Linnaeus
  • Faraday
  • Babbage
  • Joule
  • Kelvin
  • Mendel
  • Pasteur
  • Lister
  • Carver
  • von Braun
All Scientists - All Creationists
Curiously, you listed Newton Kepler and Boyle again. Makes the list look longer, doesn't it?
And are any of these scientists alive today?
No?
So they came to their religious conclusions in a vastly different society, as well as one where no evidence to the contrary of god actually existed. And a society in which the power of the Church was awe inspiring and terrifying. Why go against the guy that'll kill you for your "blasphemy"?
 

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chaldoking said:
Define Evolution.
Chaldoking, if you really are Catholic, then why do you reject the evolution theory? Isn't there a general consensus within the Catholic community that evolution should be accepted? Or am I missing something here?
 

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squeenie said:
Chaldoking, if you really are Catholic, then why do you reject the evolution theory? Isn't there a general consensus within the Catholic community that evolution should be accepted? Or am I missing something here?
No, you're not.
He's just a little behind on the times.
Say...
200 years?
 

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moll. said:
No, you're not.
He's just a little behind on the times.
Say...
200 years?
Yeah, I go to a Catholic school, and all my teachers tell us to never (never, ever, ever as one teacher likes to put it) buy into creationism, and that the Bible should never be taken literally.
 

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My philosophy on the matter:

If you don't believe in evolution, feel free to jump off a cliff and not believe in gravity either.
 

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I remember there was something in the Sydney Morning Herald's Good Weekend section about some creationist guy with all this crazy 'geological proof' of the Earth being only 7000 years old... I think it was a few months ago.

I lol'd at the article so much I choked on my tea. My parents were giving me a 'wtf are you laughing at?' looks from across the table. When my dad saw the article, he was like, lol at the creationist.
 

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Personally I think that evolution did occur but on the other hand I wish that i didn't because then it takes the imagination out of everything.
One thing that does make my brain hurt, is thinking about what there was before the big bang. It was supposed to have created everything, and spread etc but what was the 'dot' [dont even know what to call that] floating in before that? A blank canvas? I dunno.
 

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chaldoking said:
Second Law of Thermodynamics: What about the Earth and the Sun? Now?
Your intial statement of the law (that things tend towards disorder) was a pop-science paraphrase. What is your understanding of the implications of the 2nd law of thermodynamics?
 

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Miffstaa said:
Personally I think that evolution did occur but on the other hand I wish that i didn't because then it takes the imagination out of everything.
One thing that does make my brain hurt, is thinking about what there was before the big bang. It was supposed to have created everything, and spread etc but what was the 'dot' [dont even know what to call that] floating in before that? A blank canvas? I dunno.
The 'dot' (singularity) would be an appropriate point to inject 'god', if you really feel it necessary. Science doesn't know what happened before the big bang.

But where humans come from is NOT an appropriate point to inject god, because we DO know what happened then (evolution - first galactic, then biological).

The problem is, maybe some day we will know what caused the big bang. What do you do then? Move god even further back?
 

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