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I can't find this, and it overlapping with some parts in the planning stage. like the feasibility report.

where is this determined: Preliminary investigation determines whether a quick fix, new system or nothing is necessary. ?? does it go in planning or understanding the problem?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

I can't find this, and it overlapping with some parts in the planning stage. like the feasibility report.

where is this determined: Preliminary investigation determines whether a quick fix, new system or nothing is necessary. ?? does it go in planning or understanding the problem?
Huh? What do you mean?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

Huh? What do you mean?
ok, sooo, the syllabus, has outlined that this stuff is meant to be in the feasability study, and not the requirements report. DID the requiremeants report replace the preliminary investigation?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

I think preliminary investigations go into Understanding the Problem which is the first stage.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

I think preliminary investigations go into Understanding the Problem which is the first stage.
yeah which is where I did it. I just want to know if it still part of the new syllabus or if it got renamed to requirement report. this syllabus is so frekin ambiguous.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

It's in the new one.

I think it goes:

Understanding the Problem > Project Plan > Requirements Report

Is this for your major project?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

It's in the new one.

I think it goes:

Understanding the Problem > Project Plan > Requirements Report

Is this for your major project?
nope, I want it for my understanding.

this is how I put it: Manager contacts system analyst > System analyst carries out the preliminary investigation > Requirements prototype > requirements report.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

haha i'm still a little confused on this topic :/ does a requirements report cover everything except the requirements prorotype?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

It's in the new one.

I think it goes:

Understanding the Problem > Project Plan > Requirements Report

Is this for your major project?
what do you mean by this?

I've been taught that it goes

Understanding the problem > making decisions > developing the system > Implementing > testing, evauluation

excuse my ignorance if I'm talking about something completely different.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

what do you mean by this?

I've been taught that it goes

Understanding the problem > making decisions > developing the system > Implementing > testing, evauluation

excuse my ignorance if I'm talking about something completely different.
I'm not talking about the whole cycle. I'm talking about what is involved in the 'Understanding the Problem' stage.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

what do you mean by this?

I've been taught that it goes

Understanding the problem > making decisions > developing the system > Implementing > testing, evauluation

excuse my ignorance if I'm talking about something completely different.
btw making decisions has be renamed to planning.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

haha i'm still a little confused on this topic :/ does a requirements report cover everything except the requirements prorotype?
Requirements protoypes are used to explore the requirements of the system. Then you go to the planning stage.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

Requirements protoypes are used to explore the requirements of the system. Then you go to the planning stage.
yeah but is a prelim investigation included within the requirements report?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

As with what jules_shorty said, I think preliminary investigations are in the "Understanding the problem" stage. So I doubt prelim investigations are in requirement reports
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

btw making decisions has be renamed to planning.
damn, I used to remember it with UMDIT as in "Um Dit I tell you, you're retarded?"...now its UPDIT...wtf is UPDIT?
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

Do you do Software (SDD) too? There's also a cycle in SDD that's similar to the IPT one so maybe that's the one that you were thinking of.
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

Do you do Software (SDD) too? There's also a cycle in SDD that's similar to the IPT one so maybe that's the one that you were thinking of.
Wow you do a lot of computing subjects
 

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Re: are preliminary investigations / requirement definition still in the new syllabus

the requirements report is in understand the problem stage, I just don't know if it replaces the old term, prelim investigation, becasue everything about it is very similar to a prelim invest.
this is for IPT, i'm 100% sure. the excel book (updated) mentions requirement reports which my main book doesn't (old book).

SDC (for sdd) is, define the problem, plan, build check, modify

Its not that hard to remember the 5 stages, personally I just know them off by heart, its not that hard really.
 
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