haha...yea ok then mr upper tier mensa lolol
You can really be quite sillly sometimes you know townie? Its really quite entertaining
This is stupid
People can have high IQ scores and be quite stupid
e.g. Children can have IQ scores upwards of 120 and not know shit about anything.
Labour: NBN to be completed in 15/20 years with high transfer speeds. (Who the fck wants to wait that long, by that time that crap will be outdated and their will be new technology)
Liberal: Use currently available optic fibres to complete NBN within 5 years at much lower speeds (means nothing for the long term, will only provide short term benefits, which in itself wont be much).
What technology can you suggest is faster than fibre? Which is light. The speed of light~~~~
Labor is clearly the better choice on this issue.
edit: one thing i really hate about labour is their hypocrisy. They go on about how australia should be a "good middle power" getting involved in intl' development and humanitarian operations, which is all fine an dandy. Then they pull the whole "LOL WE WONT RESETTLE BOAT PEOPLE IN AUS." Good job labour, way to be a good middle power.
But it is essential to remember Libs do the same.
I think greens win out on the refugee issues
Have you done economics before?
Business that don't want to pay the tax won't pollute as much, and furthermore , this will compensate for the negative externalities produced by factories with high pollution. FYI, it's called a pigovian tax or corrective tax. Want me to draw the graph ?
dis guy knows
yes please
Although I am not a fan of either of the major parties at the moment, it's surprising to see so many on BOS voting for libs with all the planned cuts to the student sector. I guess you must all be rich, or something.
Yeah, I don't fucking understand that.
I'm poor as shit.And not nearly rural enough to get any of the National Party's proposed benefits
Kevin Rudd in 2008-2010 gave generous tax cuts to the mega rich (millionaires and billionaires) in Australia (more tax cuts than John Howard could ever dream). Now that Kevin Rudd is back expect the rich to get richer. The Coalition will copy Labor's tax reforms. Labor wants to promote self reliance, hard work and entrepreneurship. Kevin Rudd is right of centre as manifested by his design of the Papua New Guinea/ Nauru Resettlement Solution for Asylum seekers. Kevin Rudd is more right wing than John Howard. Kevin Rudd is also terminating the carbon tax.
I agree with a few things here.
KRudd is pretty Labor Right and anyone that uses the ~leftism~ of the Labor party to vote for the Libs this election haven't been paying attention.
I'm most-likely going Green because of this.
Most people are pretty rational in reality.
business people**
Or we can have a too big to fail situation and end up like detroit. You can't always support a dying industry, sure you'll help it survive a few more years to stave off the inevitable and most of your arguments are highly emotional with the whole "omg job loss!" There are other manufacturing jobs people can go into in Australia. When you start looking at the micro level too intensely, youre missing the forest for the trees.
I think you're underestimating the amount of people holden and ford employ
they cant just all go and get new jobs at the same time
and there would be no industry for their training
most meat packing jobs are most often rural, pay far less than automotive jobs do, and i guarantee the meat packing (and domestic manufacturing in general) industry can't soak up somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 autoworkers.
ford has been negotiating the winding down of domestic manufacturing with the federal government for years. the australian government is coordinating with ford to improve and create employment opportunities for redundant workers through the Automotive Industry Structural Adjustment Program. this is exactly what i advocate. thanks for making my point.
we're already letting them have subsidies and no one else is begging for them (beyond wanting free money in general), so what is your point?
this
The government isn't just shelling out money to people because they want it. They're supplying money to keep people in jobs because the alternative is worse. Having thousands of individuals' livelihoods go down the tubes all at the same time is incredibly irresponsible. It's callous and it's poor economic management. Having thousands on welfare, extended unemployment, plus the myriad of social issues that spill into a community with high unemployment.
They don't "destroy the workers", they just sustain dying industries. There are workers at Holden right now that are too old to retrain. There are lots of people that won't be able to find meaningful employment once the doors close, sure. That's why in the meantime you have efforts to wind down and help people become more flexible in their skillset as to minimise the loss. The alternative you are proposing to having bad industries "destroy the workers" is to throw them and their families out onto the street. How is this a better outcome?
All dis
He was being facetious mate
And the Liberal party isn't on the right for economics (to any real degree) and there is a fuckload more to fascism than that.
the ALP and LNC are pretty much evenly economically right atm imho
When other businesses are laying off staff, they get less, idk, auto industry has had it pretty cushy for a long time. Thinking about fairness, justice. Most peoples parents I know were laid off now and then, and there's no special treatment. Dad's an academic, he has been worrying about job retention always, massive uni staff cuts occur periodically. The scale of redundancy in the auto industry means something I guess.
I can accept govt help for adjustment/retraining might be good, aren't people in industries other than the auto industry equally deserving though?
And it is pretty alarming when academics which can bring innovation to the country are less supported than those that assemble falcodores.
+1
In the end though, Abbott will win; there's no doubt about it. Whilst I do agree that Abbott is a shit speaker in the way he mumbles, but that really doesn't reflect how he would do as PM. You've also gotta remember that you elect the PARTY and not the leader. Unfortunately, the way this campaign has been run you'd think its a presidential election. Ill be glad to see the end of Rudd, he a maniac and I cant see him sticking around after the loss. INB4 butt hurt Labor people blame murdoch press for loss
The Murdoch press may well be the cause of a loss in this country
A lot of people are fucking stupid
