china- female baby rejects. (1 Viewer)

[cerebrum]

Whats your opinion on chinese familys rejecting newborn females????

 

[withoutaface]

I think I've made my view clear enough in other threads, I'll give someone else a turn.

 

[SuGa BunI =D]

sexist?
one child policy thus perfers boy...its traditional

 

[neo o]

Infantacide, invasion, subjugation and thought police are all necessary to preserve social stability and uphold the family values that the Chinese government aims to preserve. Obviously, being a Westerner, you're just ignorant of the "Chinese way" of doing things. You're government allows for homosexuality and the degradation of family values, leading to moral decay. Unlike in the West, Chinese society is blossiming under communist rule!

Besides, as sugar bunny says, the killing of female children is all about the preservation of traditional values.

(Don't worry waf, enough asian women are born in Australia, the US, Korea, Hong Kong and Japan to keep both of us happy.) The next generation of Chinese though, are going to be very desperate men.

Porn prices => Through the roof.

 

[withoutaface]

<3
Now all we need is Phanatical to come in telling us why it's a good thing that infants die and Alicia telling us that it was inevitable.

 

[miss_b]

I don't really know all that much about the one child policy...

What woudl happen if a woman has a child out of marriage, then gets married and the husband wants a child?

If they don't want daughters, why not just abort the child when they find out the gender?

 

[withoutaface]

I don't really know all that much about the one child policy...

What woudl happen if a woman has a child out of marriage, then gets married and the husband wants a child?

If they don't want daughters, why not just abort the child when they find out the gender?

In a society such as China's I doubt most people have the technology to find out, and abortion is probably illegal, correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

[cerebrum]

I don't really know all that much about the one child policy...

What woudl happen if a woman has a child out of marriage, then gets married and the husband wants a child?

If they don't want daughters, why not just abort the child when they find out the gender?

Some people find it difficult to destroy a living being..... However most chinese prefer males as they carry the family name throughout the generations.

 

[miss_b]

In a society such as China's I doubt most people have the technology to find out, and abortion is probably illegal, correct me if I'm wrong though.

Go to shen zhen? It's legal there, abortion central!!

 

[cerebrum]

In a society such as China's I doubt most people have the technology to find out, and abortion is probably illegal, correct me if I'm wrong though.

Abortion is illegal once the baby has matured at a particular stage. More than likely by the time you realised its gender it would be illegal to proceed with an abortion.

 

[miss_b]

Abortion is illegal once the baby has matured at a particular stage. More than likely by the time you realised its gender it would be illegal to proceed with an abortion.

Go to shen zhen...

It's just not too safe...

 

[withoutaface]

Postnatal abortions are always much more fun.

 

[cerebrum]

What if one parent opposes to the abortion.... gender discrimination should be comfronted and solved... not avoided

 

[neo o]

What if one parent opposes to the abortion.... gender discrimination should be comfronted and solved... not avoided

Given Chinese tradition, I don't think that any woman would be allowed to oppose an abortion... or want one for that matter

 

[Samie_Loo]

its obviously not fair... but the chinese have their own culture... we cannot oppose this... but you think they'd begin to change it nowadays as there are like 10 men to one woman...

 

[supercharged]

What the hell is the obsession with human rights in China? Get over it, Human rights in China is damn good compared to many parts of the world. If you want some reading material about human rights abuses against children why just go take a look at Africa (world's worst human rights) where child slave labour and child soldiers are rife?

The Geneva-based International Labor
Organization (ILO) said Friday Sub-Saharan Africa has the world's
worst record of child labor. The ILO estimates 29 percent of children aged between five and 14 are having to earn a living in the region, the next highest rate is in Asia where it stands at 19 percent, according to a
recent ILO report available here. The report said one of the reasons for the high rate of child laborers in most African countries is because children are often
seen as an economic resource to be employed to help support a
family and local community. Alice Ouedrago, director for policy development at the ILO, believes there are many underlying reasons.
"The concept we use to talk about child labor, when you look at the many languages in Africa, child labor does not convey any negative perceptions, it seems to be alright," she said. Ouedrago said that in some African families, people have children in order to have the manpower to sustain themselves.
"We notice in Africa that many of the population, they do take
their own responsibilities and they try to make their life better and they don't wait for anything to come from the top because they know that this is something that is quite difficult to materialize."
So in the absence of better economic prospects, many Africans
will continue to struggle to fend for themselves, according to
Ouedrago. Enditem

A HRW report details cases of children as young as three - many of them orphans - who were made to work as domestic or agricultural labourers.

It describes children suffering physical and emotional abuse, and then being told to make their own way home - often from other countries.

"Orphans face many grave human rights abuses, and trafficking is surely one of the worst," said Jonathan Cohen, the author of the report.

"Trafficking in child labour occurs along numerous routes in West Africa, and governments aren't doing enough to stop it," he said.

The issue of child labour in West Africa made headlines last year following reports that almost half the chocolate produced in the United States came from cocoa beans harvested by young people in Ivory Coast.

The appeals panel of the Special Court for Sierra Leone has ruled that recruiting child soldiers was established as a war crime at the time of the civil war in that country.
This opens the way for what will be the first ever prosecution for child recruitment at an international war crimes tribunal.

The picture of a child soldier, clutching a gun almost as big as himself, has become the enduring image of West Africa's civil conflicts.

Both sides in Sierra Leone used very young fighters, in defiance of international conventions on the rights of the child, and leaders from both sides now face prosecution.

But former deputy Defence Minister Hinga Norman, who recruited and armed pro-government militias, argued that despite these international conventions, and despite general disapproval of under-age recruitment, it actually was not a war crime under international law at the time the acts were committed.

Now this is real child abuse:

African boys used as sacrifices: report
11:26 AM June 17

A confidential report commissioned by the Metropolitan Police in London suggests that people smugglers are bringing African children to Britain to be used as sacrifices.

The police report is based on workshops with African and Asian communities in inner London.

Contributors to the workshops said boys were being smuggled into the UK for powerful spells, which required the sacrifice of a male child, unblemished by circumcision, in order to be effective.

There were also claims that youngsters were being smuggled into the UK as domestic slaves and for men with HIV, who believe that if they had sex with a child they would be cleansed.

The authors of the report point out that these are only allegations, but say there are countless examples of these forms of child abuse.

Shock, Horror! Look another country with poor human rights! http://www.time.com/time/asia/2005/nepal/images/feature_home.jpg
Now start jumping up and down about it






Btw, Gender tests on the unborn have been banned in China, to stop couples choosing the sex of their child. Anyhow the one child policy is being relaxed in some parts of China such as Shanghai http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/15/content_2833453.htm

 

[ameh]

maybe one day chinese girls will be a rare breed!





- meh

 

[withoutaface]

What the hell is the obsession with human rights in China? Get over it, Human rights in China is damn good compared to many parts of the world. If you want some reading material about human rights abuses against children why just go take a look at Africa (world's worst human rights) where child slave labour and child soldiers are rife?





Now this is real child abuse:



Shock, Horror! Look another country with poor human rights! http://www.time.com/time/asia/2005/nepal/images/feature_home.jpg
Now start jumping up and down about it






Btw, Gender tests on the unborn have been banned in China, to stop couples choosing the sex of their child. Anyhow the one child policy is being relaxed in some parts of China such as Shanghai http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/15/content_2833453.htm

We're arguing China and not Africa because:
1. Noone (except tatooedguy) is going to argue in favour of the slavery there, a one-sided discussion isn't going to provide for interesting debate.
2. Many of the countries in Africa are completely undeveloped, whereas China is supposed to be developed to a reasonable extent.

 

[Newbie]

Glad to see most people did their social science reading back in high school
however im guessing most people believe in a policy that is a generation old

to be honest, i also until last week believed that china still had a one child policy and that girls are killed blah blah

the policy right now in china is this: the one child policy does not apply in situations where both parents are from single child families.

people are essentially correct when they say that chinese values show a sexist preference and that female infanticide was an extremity driven by the one child policy. However in concurrence with rising social conditions and GDP/capita and the new policy direction, such practice is rare

 

[Kittycat]

I don't really know all that much about the one child policy...

What woudl happen if a woman has a child out of marriage, then gets married and the husband wants a child?

If they don't want daughters, why not just abort the child when they find out the gender?

They are not allowed to find out the gender of the baby as they fear massive abortions of female babies.

In a society such as China's I doubt most people have the technology to find out, and abortion is probably illegal, correct me if I'm wrong though.

Oh please, China is that like really prvo & is that behind. Abortion is legal in china.

the policy right now in china is this: the one child policy does not apply in situations where both parents are from single child families.

Yes, that is true as well as the people in the country areas are allowed to have 2 kids, even if their parents are not from a single child family.

Oh yes, another interesting point. Even now with the one child policy, the fertility rate in china is still higher than australia's. China = 1.8 per woman(the last time I checked.... one child policy ) Australia = 1.72 kids per woman.