Combined med usyd. (2 Viewers)

[iSplicer]

theres certainly a lot more than 1 or 2 99.95ers at UNSW.

I know of one 99.95er (confirmed no more) who chose UNSW in 2010. There were about 2 in 2009. No idea about 2011.

 

[theind1996]

I know of one 99.95er (confirmed no more) who chose UNSW in 2010. There were about 2 in 2009. No idea about 2011.

Wait, but the thing I don't get is:

Usyd Med has 30 spots:

50 99.95ers each year.

~ 5 don't choose Med/Law
~ 20 choose Law
~ 25 choose Med
~ 22 want to do Usyd Med.

If there's 30 spots, how doesn't every 99.95er WANTING to do Usyd Med get in?

 

[enoilgam]

Wait, but the thing I don't get is:

Usyd Med has 30 spots:

50 99.95ers each year.

~ 5 don't choose Med/Law
~ 20 choose Law
~ 25 choose Med
~ 22 want to do Usyd Med.

If there's 30 spots, how doesn't every 99.95er WANTING to do Usyd Med get in?

I'm not sure if all the 30 spots are allocated towards domestic school leavers. There might be some set aside for aboriginal students and internationals (Dr_Fresh would know). Also, I think a few more than 5 .95ers do degrees other than med or law. In any event, its a small number of possible candidates for a small number of available positions, so realistically USyd cant be very selective with there interviews as other medicine programs can be.

 

[theind1996]

I'm not sure if all the 30 spots are allocated towards domestic school leavers. There might be some set aside for aboriginal students and internationals (Dr_Fresh would know). Also, I think a few more than 5 .95ers do degrees other than med or law. In any event, its a small number of possible candidates for a small number of available positions, so realistically USyd cant be very selective with there interviews as other medicine programs can be.

That's pretty true I guess. Oh, I forgot International and Interstate and Aboriginal students. Oh boy haha.

 

[theind1996]

I know of one 99.95er (confirmed no more) who chose UNSW in 2010. There were about 2 in 2009. No idea about 2011.

Besides UditNindra, I know that the Penrith Dux of 2010 does it at UNSW.

 

[iSplicer]

Besides UditNindra, I know that the Penrith Dux of 2010 does it at UNSW.

OH YES, how could I forget her, haha. I had a bit of a discussion with her about this very topic. My bad! But yeah, apart from those two, not sure of anyone else.

In any case, nfi why anyone would choose UNSW. Six years for a single degree vs. seven years for two and more importantly, the option to combine your MBBS with an MPhil at no extra time cost. The ILP at UNSW won't count as real research when you're offering it up to the college of your choice down the track. You'd *have* to get something published/convert it into honours (which takes extra time at UNSW I think) for any real impact and even then I'd question how effective it would be against an MPhil (which can be converted to a PhD with one extra year at USYD). BMedSc/MBBS/PhD in 8 years is possible with my program.

Don't forget the 10k p/a scholarship for the entire 7-8 years,

 

[iSplicer]

Wait, but the thing I don't get is:

Usyd Med has 30 spots:

50 99.95ers each year.

~ 5 don't choose Med/Law
~ 20 choose Law
~ 25 choose Med
~ 22 want to do Usyd Med.

If there's 30 spots, how doesn't every 99.95er WANTING to do Usyd Med get in?

Not all spots are necessarily allocated.

 

[Dr_Fresh]

a B MedSc is really quite useless in most cases. a lot of unis offer it as an optional 1 year, but a bachelors degree in any field is easily trumped by your MBBS. the only real degree of worth is a PhD which you should only do after specialising.
also, one additional year of medical practice is much more advantageous and favoured than 1 additional year of study. that is why i really question the decision to complete a 7 year course as opposed to 6 or even 5. i guess its hard to know these things until you are much further down the track in medicine

 

[TheBloop]

Yeah, people mainly go for USyd combined if they're shit at umat/interviews.

At least that's what I've been told from friends of people who chose there.

And the people in my classes that I know do it do not seem like the kind of people to do well at med interviews.

 

[mirakon]

a B MedSc is really quite useless in most cases. a lot of unis offer it as an optional 1 year, but a bachelors degree in any field is easily trumped by your MBBS. the only real degree of worth is a PhD which you should only do after specialising.
also, one additional year of medical practice is much more advantageous and favoured than 1 additional year of study. that is why i really question the decision to complete a 7 year course as opposed to 6 or even 5. i guess its hard to know these things until you are much further down the track in medicine

Hi Dr Fresh, just wondering on what the advantages are of completing a PhD after you specialise?

 

[iSplicer]

Hi Dr Fresh, just wondering on what the advantages are of completing a PhD after you specialise?

+1. I've always thought it's a useful precursor to help you get into a particular program? Could you kindly clarify =]

 

[iSplicer]

a B MedSc is really quite useless in most cases. a lot of unis offer it as an optional 1 year, but a bachelors degree in any field is easily trumped by your MBBS. the only real degree of worth is a PhD which you should only do after specialising.
also, one additional year of medical practice is much more advantageous and favoured than 1 additional year of study. that is why i really question the decision to complete a 7 year course as opposed to 6 or even 5. i guess its hard to know these things until you are much further down the track in medicine

Some fair points, but I still think the ability to graduate with an MPhil in no extra time is awesome. The scholarship is nice, and the three year undergraduate program's allowing me to do quite a lot of part-time work, something I wouldn't do during MBBS. There are so many factors at play here - whatever they are, they're good enough for 90~+% of 99.95ers to choose this program.

 

[iSplicer]

Yeah, people mainly go for USyd combined if they're shit at umat/interviews.

At least that's what I've been told from friends of people who chose there.

And the people in my classes that I know do it do not seem like the kind of people to do well at med interviews.

lol'ed.

The vast majority (if not all) the people in my program had offers to undergraduate medicine across the board in Australia. Unbonded, with scholarships in most cases.

tl;dr: umad?

 

[mirakon]

Tbh I think there is no point in arguing about which uni a high ATAR student should go to, considering that every course has its advantages. Doing medicine anyway is great, and the fact that you can find high ATAR students in USYD, UNSW and even UWS is testament to the fact that each course has something going for it.

i mean if I did manage to get a 99.95 ATAR I would probably choose a 5 year or 6 year course over a 7 year course, purely because I would rather spend that 7th year working in a hospital rather than studying. However, the USYD programme also has its advantages, particularly the financial aspect of that scholarship

 

[manic100]

lol'ed.

The vast majority (if not all) the people in my program had offers to undergraduate medicine across the board in Australia. Unbonded, with scholarships in most cases.

tl;dr: umad?

lol'ed.

did you?
heard you fked up UMAT.. umad?

 

[iSplicer]

lol'ed.

did you?
heard you fked up UMAT.. umad?

... not really, lol.

And yes, it's true I didn't do as well as I would've liked in the UMAT. I still got interview offers from most undergrad med schools though, all of which I declined. Some of them were guaranteed offers via the high-ATAR pathways that they had. Or something like that. (the notable exception being UWS - I didn't get an interview offer from them).

 

[m.jakaran]

Trying to be as impartial as I can, but from a purely financial perspective I think you could be better of with UWS/UNSW. Although 10k p.a might seem like an astronomical amount of money, it could mean you reach a consultant's salary a year later.

 

[TheBloop]

lol'ed.

The vast majority (if not all) the people in my program had offers to undergraduate medicine across the board in Australia. Unbonded, with scholarships in most cases.

tl;dr: umad?

I'm a little mad that you neglected the rest of the comment.

Also, you got in so I assume the interview is nothing special.

... not really, lol.

And yes, it's true I didn't do as well as I would've liked in the UMAT. I still got interview offers from most undergrad med schools though, all of which I declined. Some of them were guaranteed offers via the high-ATAR pathways that they had. Or something like that. (the notable exception being UWS - I didn't get an interview offer from them).

lol'd

 

[TheBloop]

Trying to be as impartial as I can, but from a purely financial perspective I think you could be better of with UWS/UNSW. Although 10k p.a might seem like an astronomical amount of money, it could mean you reach a consultant's salary a year later.

Plus, if you live in GWS you get $5k/year and I think you can go for extra scholarships too.

 

[someth1ng]

USyd is more prestigous