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Yeah, but most of the asian ones don't have that problem. It's very prevalent in the "white" ones, but the same goes for guys. Just more noticeable in girls because you don't expect it.
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... yeah, but don't anaesthetists have the highest suicide rates? them and dentists, I was told...+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:realli?? Wow...
that latter comment may hav swayed me to be an anaesthetist too lolz..
if im goin to study for a min of 15 yrs.. i pray that id make sumfing to show for it..
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Lex, you're a pig. That's all I have to say.
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m111 said:
You need to see how politically correct we are forced to be to understand the humour. It's not that I really believe any of those things, but rather that should I actually say them in person people would be shocked and reviled. Of course, given the context of your statement, I don't see any need to justify it further.
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Well, I just felt that I should stand up for all us "white" female aspiring doctors - give us a chance!
Hehe... as long as we can all realise that this is tongue-in-cheek, then I won't have to kick your ass! ;p
(honestly, where those posts just begging for a bite or what?!)
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Hehe... as long as we can all realise that this is tongue-in-cheek, then I won't have to kick your ass! ;p
(honestly, where those posts just begging for a bite or what?!)
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Anyway, I'm not sure about the anaesthitist suicide statistics. I don't think I'd be driven to take my own life, because I have a secret drug that keeps me thirsty for life.
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Lexicographer said:Anyway, I'm not sure about the anaesthitist suicide statistics. I don't think I'd be driven to take my own life, because I have a secret drug that keeps me thirsty for life.
um a lecturer said that anaesthetists did have the highest suicide rates out of doctors/physicians etc.
ie. it's boring and ...
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w00t w00t.. im goin to Die .. nah i love the thought of anaesthesia.. and if its realli boring.. ill go into research..
umm white female aspiring docs.. are a majority in Adel..and are very capable students...
but to be honest females majorities in med schools are not good.. they can cause a massive shortage because..
a) if they decide to get pregnant, a strain where they work will occur of doctors shuffling to make up for lost hours. Male doctors rarely take/are eligible for maternity leave.
b) the option for a male doctor to provide a male perspective and consul is limited.. i mean if ure goin to get ure prostate remove and u may get erectile dysfunction a male sumtimes.. especially older men feel comfortable talking to a male doc than a female... its lik OBGYN.. it use to be 100% males.. ppl want options.. and now its lik mostly females... but they are still hard to find
btw most schools intakes were majority females.. up to 66%.. im just saying that a 50/50 would be better..
.. nah i love the thought of anaesthesia.. and if its realli boring.. ill go into research.. umm white female aspiring docs.. are a majority in Adel..and are very capable students...
but to be honest females majorities in med schools are not good.. they can cause a massive shortage because..
a) if they decide to get pregnant, a strain where they work will occur of doctors shuffling to make up for lost hours. Male doctors rarely take/are eligible for maternity leave.
b) the option for a male doctor to provide a male perspective and consul is limited.. i mean if ure goin to get ure prostate remove and u may get erectile dysfunction a male sumtimes.. especially older men feel comfortable talking to a male doc than a female... its lik OBGYN.. it use to be 100% males.. ppl want options.. and now its lik mostly females... but they are still hard to find
btw most schools intakes were majority females.. up to 66%.. im just saying that a 50/50 would be better..
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hehe... ok I'm feeling an overwhelming sense of male domination, seeing as I seem to be the only girl here... and there are just some mods I REALLY don't want to upset....*backs away slowly*
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So, you're saying that a male who would not be as good of a doctor should get a position over a female who would be good, purely for the sake of ratio's?
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You tell 'em girl! *hides behind Jess*
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Ugh.hipsta_jess said:
Don't start polarising views, or you'll seem like a typical slackjawed American media personality. A doctor is only as good as s/he is capable, and if a doctor is not capable of meeting the needs of a patient (in Alvin's example, people with "mens' problems") then they're simply no good to the patient.
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Well Yes.. i think actively insuring that doctors represent the community at least gender wise would be an important issue..hipsta_jess said:
100% females in a profession does not allow for diversity nor choice for patients .. communication skills are as important as analytical skills in med.. those comm skills can be learnt so using a 1-shot interview cant be as meaningful as they appear.
im saying that i suspect the current process may disadvantage males so intake ratios should be taken into account..
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Pray, +Po1ntDeXt3r+, enlighten us on exactly how you will alter the process to advantage the male applicants??
This thread reminds me of something I read... both from the male perspective obviously...
http://users.bigpond.net.au/johnorchard/medical_ed.htm
This thread reminds me of something I read... both from the male perspective obviously...
http://users.bigpond.net.au/johnorchard/medical_ed.htm
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He's not talking about giving advantage to male applicants, but eliminating disadvantage.
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So he is. My mistake... i must have misread the post. But still, how can it be managed? Simply restrict the number of females who obtain entry to the program?
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i doubt that.. actualli im noticing the news is reportin more gender disparity in yr 12 results too..
but i think if the solution was easy enough to be posted on the net forum.. it would be done
for the interviews
interviewer education that males will react differently and require slightly different approaches is important.. because they are given a form to adhere to for an interview and altering the form may/may not help improve intake disparity
but i think if the solution was easy enough to be posted on the net forum.. it would be done
for the interviews
interviewer education that males will react differently and require slightly different approaches is important.. because they are given a form to adhere to for an interview and altering the form may/may not help improve intake disparity
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... but then again, if the prospective is unable to be flexible, what good will they be when they come to patient interaction, say? Are you presuming that some sort of communication/personal skills training will be undertaken? (They won't help everyone...)+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:i doubt that.. actualli im noticing the news is reportin more gender disparity in yr 12 results too..
but i think if the solution was easy enough to be posted on the net forum.. it would be done
for the interviews
interviewer education that males will react differently and require slightly different approaches is important.. because they are given a form to adhere to for an interview and altering the form may/may not help improve intake disparity
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because skills like those are actualli able to be taught
i kno this because ive seen it... comm skills are taught at all med schools.. u assume that ure comm skills are set.. i am suppose to spend about 1/4 of the course doing it
with many ppl its due to confidence and practise... all med schools provide this practise.. obviously u cant be totally inept but within reasonable limits u can .. so 1/3 of selection on 45mins is a lil big for anyone..
i kno this because ive seen it... comm skills are taught at all med schools.. u assume that ure comm skills are set.. i am suppose to spend about 1/4 of the course doing it
with many ppl its due to confidence and practise... all med schools provide this practise.. obviously u cant be totally inept but within reasonable limits u can .. so 1/3 of selection on 45mins is a lil big for anyone..
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Yeah, we've got this damn "Foundations of Clinical Practice" unit which is all about "how not to be offensive to your patients". I call it "Foundations of HappyDoc".