emytaylor164
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God is not evil yes he judges he had every right to he created us and we disobey him. Living a life for christ is the only one worth living
Yes I have come to that conclusion. It seems that despite knowing we were going to be atheists all along, he wanted us to keep the believers some company, and then rot in hell later. I mean, if that was the case, I would've appreciated God to give me the mercy of not existing at all, if that was my fate (existing, co-existing with believers, then burning in hell for what I was fated for). Much like the little prank he did by putting the apple tree in the garden of eden. What a little prankster he was.Enteebee said:It's God's will to have atheists, we're here to test the true believers.
Bible death toll:emytaylor164 said:God is not evil yes he judges he had every right to he created us and we disobey him. Living a life for christ is the only one worth living
but but but....emirisan said:It is your choice, you choose what you want to do in your life
BUT, God knows what you will choose.
Christ you just reiterated the problem, can't you see that?!?!emirisan said:It is your choice, you choose what you want to do in your life
BUT, God knows what you will choose.
contradicts withemirisan said:It is your choice, you choose what you want to do in your life
THINK ABOUT ITemirisan said:BUT, God knows what you will choose.
andI have the CHOICE of whether to believe in God or not
andGod knows what I will choose.
therefore before I even made the choice of atheism and emphasising thatAtheists are doomed to go to hell
before I was even BORN God knew I will be doomed to go to hellGod knows what I will choose
Everything? I'd be careful not to extrapolate quantum theory out onto ... much larger than quantum bodies.Kwayera said:Also, God violates quantum theory (in that everything is inherently random and unpredictable, therefore it can't be "known" by an "all-knowing God" that has a "Plan").
No you don't understand, you seem to understand a few things, and not the important point I'm trying to stress, maybe I'm being unclear here.emytaylor164 said:incorrect he knows what you are going to do but the choice is still yours he doesnt make it for you he just knows what choice you are going to make.
Yeah but obviously we have a different "personality" or "soul" than the people that choose not to turn away right? Where did that come from? That came from (like everything else) God.emytaylor164 said:He created us perfect we turned away. he knew we were going to but due to free will he didnt stop us
Sure I can. Unless someone wants to mathematically contradict me (Slidey?), as far as I know, you cannot predict anything 100% of the time. Entropy (especially largescale, "patterns" tend towards chaos).Enteebee said:Everything? I'd be careful not to extrapolate quantum theory out onto ... much larger than quantum bodies.
As long as God's plan allows for a margin of error of around hbar/2 then he should be alrightKwayera said:Also, God violates quantum theory (in that everything is inherently random and unpredictable, therefore it can't be "known" by an "all-knowing God" that has a "Plan").
Well he's very fair then is he?emytaylor164 said:because he is not going to stop someone from being born because of that. they could turn out to be a christian everyone deserves the right to choose.
BUT HE KNOWS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE A HINDU.emytaylor164 said:because he is not going to stop someone from being born because of that. they could turn out to be a christian everyone deserves the right to choose.
But because he is all-knowing He will know whether or not they will every get the CHANCE to "choose". How does some poor Indian farmer living in remote Uttar Pradesh ever even hear of the Bible?emytaylor164 said:because he is not going to stop someone from being born because of that. they could turn out to be a christian everyone deserves the right to choose.
Wait. What?emytaylor164 said:you are judged on what you have heard if you never hear about God u will still go to heaven
I don't want to pretend I'm a mathematician or a physicist but I'll try to share how I think it's been explained to me...Kwayera said:Sure I can. Unless someone wants to mathematically contradict me (Slidey?), as far as I know, you cannot predict anything 100% of the time. Entropy (especially largescale, "patterns" tend towards chaos).
Because the Bible contradicts that and you seem pretty intent on following that old book.emytaylor164 said:yeah well hes not going to send them to hell if they never heard about him you have though so what are complaining about